The death of Major Wolfgang Schellmann

[Topspeed]

I was reading the Me 109 Aces of the Eastern Front series and I looked at a specific pilots faith very carefully.

German pilot bailed over Soviet territory during Barbarossa operation. NKVD executed him two days after that. Is that ok ?

Somehow I have been under the impression that pilots should be treated fairly even under the circumstances of a war ?

[Kim Sung]

Considering what the Germans had done to the Soviet people, NKVD's execution of the German pilot is understandable.

[tonyh]

So does that understanding apply to Gestapo executions of Allied pilots who were shot down?

Tony

[Leibstandarte_reenactor]

So does that understanding apply to Gestapo executions of Allied pilots who were shot down?

Tony

no it does not, its a double standard. the NKVD was just as criminal as any nazi "criminal" organization.

[Topspeed]

Considering what the Germans had done to the Soviet people, NKVD's execution of the German pilot is understandable.

What had the German people done to the Soviet people, such that the Soviets hadn't done to their neighbours before, on the opening day of the Barbarossa ?

[Kim Sung]

So does that understanding apply to Gestapo executions of Allied pilots who were shot down?

Tony

The western allies didn't do on a scale with which the Germans did to the Soviet people.

[Kim Sung]

no it does not, its a double standard. the NKVD was just as criminal as any nazi "criminal" organization.

I agree that NKVD is a criminal organization. But NKVD didn't intend to annihilate a certain ethinic group unlike the Nazi criminal organizations.

[Kim Sung]

I basically agree that executing a POW is a bad thing. Understanding means that I understand their feeling (if the execution of a German POW was conducted as a reprisal for their Soviet brethren massacred by the Germans) even though it is also a crime. I don't mean such a thing is good.

[Steen Ammentorp]

I have moved this thread from the Lounge. This means that we want to see well argumented and sourced posts not just opinion posts.

PS. Forum search will also be a good thing to do. Plenty of threads on NKVD.

/Steen Ammentorp

[Kim Sung]

German pilot bailed over Soviet territory during Barbarossa operation. NKVD executed him two days after that. Is that ok ?

When did this occur?

[Topspeed]

On the first day and days following the first day of Barbarossa 20th June 1941. I'll check the pilots name soon.

[Topspeed]

no it does not, its a double standard. the NKVD was just as criminal as any nazi "criminal" organization.

I agree that NKVD is a criminal organization. But NKVD didn't intend to annihilate a certain ethinic group unlike the Nazi criminal organizations.

Well I just dare to say Finns were a target of a ethnic cleansing in USSR from the 1932 onwards. Usually men were killed...machine gunned down in large number and women dispersed all over the SU.

[Kim Sung]

Well I just dare to say Finns were a target of a ethnic cleansing in USSR from the 1932 onwards. Usually men were killed...machine gunned down in large number and women dispersed all over the SU.

I think it belongs to a category of controversy whether the Soviets deliberately intended to exterminate the Finns in this case. Anyway, I'll refrain from mentioning the Finn-Soviet relation because it is an off-topic issue in this thread.

[tonyh]

So does that understanding apply to Gestapo executions of Allied pilots who were shot down?

Tony

The western allies didn't do on a scale with which the Germans did to the Soviet people.

No, Sung. I'm afraid that just isn't good enough. And I wouldn't set such opinions in stone, without further study. But you're welcome to you opinion.

Tony

[tonyh]

no it does not, its a double standard. the NKVD was just as criminal as any nazi "criminal" organization.

I agree that NKVD is a criminal organization. But NKVD didn't intend to annihilate a certain ethinic group unlike the Nazi criminal organizations.

Tell that to a Kalmyk.

Tony