Fredrik Jensen accused of warcrimes

[Georg_S]

Hello,

Can someone tell me what SS-Ostuf Fredrik Jensen has been accused of, in this link
they claimes that Jensen has been searched by the Interpol, which I find pretty amazing, can it have been accusations of his time in the Germanske SS Norge? or??

http://www.welt.de/politik/article92159 ... eisen.html

They also says that he knows where they can find SS-Hstuf Aribert Heim in this article.

Thanks in advance,

Best reg.

Georg

[Michael Miller]

Just a quick note that they have Jensen's age wrong- he's 86, not 93.

Frederik Jensen
SS-Obersturmführer der Waffen-SS


Born: 25.03.1921 in Oslo.

NSDAP-Nr.: [Not a member]
SS-Nr.: 456 051 (V) (Joined 04.04.1941)

Promotions:
[00.07.1941] -- SS-Schütze der Waffen-SS
00.00.194_ -- SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS
10.03.1943 -- SS-Untersturmführer der Waffen-SS
30.01.1944 -- SS-Obersturmführer der Waffen-SS

Decorations & Awards:
08.12.1944 -- Deutsches Kreuz in Gold as SS-Obersturmführer and Fhr. 7.Kompanie / II.Bataillon / SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Regiment 9 "Germania" / 5.SS-Panzer-Division "Wiking", Eastern Front (Based on a recommendation dated 29.09.1944 and signed by Btl. Fhr. Franz Pleiner; Endorsed 05.10.1944 by Rgt. Fhr. i.V. Herbert Oeck and 10.10.1944 by Div. Fhr. Karl Ullrich; Approved 02.11.1944 by Korps Kom. Gen. Herbert Otto Gille)
15.07.1943 -- 1939 Eisernes Kreuz I. Klasse
20.04.1943 -- 1939 Eisernes Kreuz II. Klasse
ca. 1943 ------ Nahkampfspange II. Stufe (Silber)
00.00.194_ -- Infanterie-Sturmabzeichen in Bronze
19.01.1942 -- Verwundetenabzeichen, 1939 in Schwarz
00.00.1942 -- Medaille “Winterschlacht im Osten 1941/42”
00.00.194_ -- "Frontkjemper" Badge
00.00.194_ -- Deutsches Reichssportabzeichen in Bronze

[panzerschreck]

He also got the Wound badge in gold.

They are just going to check IF he did commit war crimes, is what I have understood. Strange thing to do, I must say...

Jensen is by the way on the front page of the largest Norwegian newspaper today showing all his medals.



Henrik

[Violeta]

Jensen was wounded near Warsaw in the summer of 1944 (just before the guetto uprising), and transferred to a hospital.

Can someone tell me what happened to him afterwards? Was he reincorporated in Wiking? (it seems to me so, for he ended the war in a prisoners' acmp in Austria... which is the country where the men of the Wiking ended up).

Regards,
Violeta

[Bjørn from Norway]

Hello!

Jensen was wounded several times. I am not sure if the wound you speak about happened near Warzaw. After his recovery in Norway, where he served as adjutant for the staff chief of Germanske SS Norge, he first was ordered to an German armoured unit - not sure which one - and lately to a Unteroffizier shool at Kreisheim. When the Americans closed up, the school was ordered to fight them. He was then wounded for the 5th time, that was on the 22th April 45 at Ellwangen, Bavaria. He escaped captivity, but was arrested near the Austrian border, at Zell am See. He spent 2 years in different camps, including Dachau.

B

[HaEn]

They must be getting quite desperate to get yet another, before they all have died.
I read the article, but WHAT the heck did he do that made him a "kriegsverbrecher" ???
Membership of the Waffen SS was and is ,according to the infamous Nurnberg trials, NOT automatically an indictment as criminal.
Besides , "der Welt" has it all wrong anyway; The D.K.G. is NOT the highest German decoration, and he was not personally decorated by Hitler.
What bothers me too is the fact that there still seems to be a need in Germany to dirty their own nest.
Isn't it about time to let the past rest and start working together for the good of mankind.?

Oh well.
HN

[Georg_S]

I can´t agree more HaEn.

I meet Fredrik Jensen many years ago, and he was and still is a very nice person, but I didn´t wanted to bother him with this kind of questions.

Best reg.

Georg

[thaeberling]

I think they have some proofs, that he was involved in some Warcriems which form ever.

We have to take care not show everybody of these persons as a nice guy, because the Waffen-SS was involved in warcrimes. The proofs are letters which are sent at home or suevived witness and so on.

I really do not think that they want to accuse him only because he was member of the Waffen-SS. If yes the should accuse still a lot of members of the Waffen-SS. If this Jensen did nothing why is he not going directly ????
Why he makes now a mystery about his living place.

Greetings

thomas

[HaEn]

for the same reason many SS Vets chose to remain anonymous.
Namely: As soon as you re in the open, the volleys begin.
Gruel propaganda for the lat 60 years has portrayed the Waffen SS, as coldblooded monsters, and the story telling is still going on. As long as there is a market for it, there will be "writers"who will come up with the most bizarre stuff.
The "new" discovered diary of the Polish girl who lived in the ghetto, describes how "SS soldiers" would take a baby out of the mother's ams and smash it with its head against the pavement or wall. just for the fun of it.
It's this kind of garbage that is heaped up on the few remaining veterans, who were for about 99 % soldiers, serving at some front, and had nothing to do with camps or ghettos..
Similar to the propaganda at the end of WW I (ONE) that described how the "HUNS" would throw babies up in the air and than catch them on their bayonets.
Oops my bloodpressure is going up again.
HN

[Michael Miller]

The "new" discovered diary of the Polish girl who lived in the ghetto, describes how "SS soldiers" would take a baby out of the mother's ams and smash it with its head against the pavement or wall. just for the fun of it.

If it's an original diary written from the perspective of a ghetto dweller, it shouldn't be seen as "Greuelpropaganda". Babies were sometimes killed in that manner, and sometimes by members of the SS. And those who lived in ghettos, suffering far worse torments than the average Waffen-SS veteran in the postwar/PC world, were not so savvy as we when it came to the distinctions such as "Waffen-SS Grenadier", "Sipo/SD Einsatzkommando triggerman", "Latvian Schutzmann", etc. If they saw an armed man in SS uniform, wearing helmet or garrison cap or peaked cap, he was an "SS soldier". We on the forum can still do our bit to educate laymen as to the finer distinctions, but for those actually living under German occupation in Poland- such distinctions did not equal any difference.

I still believe in appraising each individual on his own merits and character, but the simple fact will always remain- the core "values" of the SS were destructive, inhuman, and, in my opinion, purely evil. The stench of Himmler cannot be removed from the SS as a whole. He was a very open and plain speaker, and he was quite clear- whether speaking to officers of the RSHA, Generals of the regular Army, or to Ersatztruppen of the SS-Kampfgruppe "Nord" (see below)- in stating his case for the extermination of the "Untermensch".

Sincerely and respectfully,
~ Mike



Excerpts from Himmler speeches to officers and men of the Waffen-SS:

00.09.1940 - 00.09.1940 In Metz to present the Leibstandarte-SS "Adolf Hitler" with a "Führer Standarte" in honor of their successful performance in the recent Western Campaign, and to make a speech to the units officer corps (on 07.09.1940). The following is an excerpt from that speech (Source: Partial translation of Document 1918-PS in Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Vol. IV, US Government Printing Office, District of Columbia: 1946, pp. 553-572):

"Now I would like to bring another matter to your attention. Very frequently the member of the Waffen-SS thinks about the deportation of this people here. These thoughts came to me today when watching the very difficult work out there performed by the Security Police, supported by your men, who help them a great deal. Exactly the same thing happened in Poland in weather 40 degrees below zero, where we had to haul away thousands, ten thousands, hundred thousands; where we had to have the toughness -- you should hear this but also forget it again immediately -- to shoot thousands of leading Poles, where we had to have the toughness, otherwise it would have taken revenge on us later...."



13.07.1941 In Stettin, where he made two speeches to Waffen-SS replacement troops of SS-Kampfgruppe “Nord” awaiting deployment to the front in Finland. In his second speech, to the enlisted men (the first was to officers), he stated:

"This is an ideological battle and a struggle of races. Here in this struggle stands National Socialism: an ideology based on the value of our Germanic, Nordic blood. Here stands a world as we have conceived it: Beautiful, decent, socially equal, that perhaps, in a few instances, is still burdened by shortcomings, but as a whole, a happy, beautiful world full of culture; this what our Germany is like. On the other side stands a population of 180 million, a mixture of races, whose very names are unpronounceable, and whose physique is such that one can shoot them down without pity and compassion. These animals, that torture and ill-treat every prisoner from our side... these people have been welded by the Jews into one religion, one ideology, that is called Bolshevism, with the task: now we have Russia, half of Asia, a part of Europe, now we will overwhelm Germany and the whole world.
"When you, my men, fight over there in the East, you are carrying on the same struggle, against the same subhumanity, the same inferior races that at one time appeared under the name of Huns, another time- 1,000 years ago at the time of King Henry and Otto I- under the name of Magyars, another time under the name of Tartars, and still another time under the name of Genghis Khan and the Mongols. Today they appear as Russians under the political banner of Bolshevism." (Source: Richard Breitman, The Architect of Genocide, p. 177).


24.04.1943 Inspected the SS-Panzer-Grenadier-Division "Das Reich" to present decorations and congratulate men of the division on their performance in the recent recapture of Kharkov. He was accompanied by Paul Hausser, Walter Krüger, Prof. Dr. med. Karl Gebhardt, and others. The following is excerpted from a speech he made during this visit (Source: Nazi Conspiracy and Aggression, Vol. IV, p. 572-574, Washington D.C., U.S. Government Printing Office):

“We have - I would say, as very consistent National Socialists, taken the question of blood as our starting point. We were the first really to solve the problem of blood by action, and in this connection, by problem of blood, we of course do not mean antisemitism. Antisemitism is exactly the same as delousing. Getting rid of lice is not a question of ideology. It is a matter of cleanliness.”

[Michael Miller]

Just a footnote to the above- If they are looking into Mr. Jensen's background solely because they see his Waffen-SS service as an indicator of war crimes involvement, then that is absurd, wrong, and an example of a witch hunt mentality.

~ Mike

[Violeta]

Hello!

Jensen was wounded several times. I am not sure if the wound you speak about happened near Warzaw. After his recovery in Norway, where he served as adjutant for the staff chief of Germanske SS Norge, he first was ordered to an German armoured unit - not sure which one - and lately to a Unteroffizier shool at Kreisheim. When the Americans closed up, the school was ordered to fight them. He was then wounded for the 5th time, that was on the 22th April 45 at Ellwangen, Bavaria. He escaped captivity, but was arrested near the Austrian border, at Zell am See. He spent 2 years in different camps, including Dachau.

B

Dear Bjorn:

I read about the wound near Warsaw here:
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=12642

You speak of therre previous wounds. Could you detail them?

Thanks in advance,
V.

[Claire T]

Hello,

I know this is quite an old thread but I'm working on a documentary about people and groups who collaborated with the Nazis, looking at the various reasons for doing so. It would be fantastic to talk to Fredrik Jensen as Norway is one of the countries we will be looking at, it would be great to hear his recollections of joining up and his experiences during the war.

Would anyone here have any contact details for him or know how I might find them?

Thanks,
Claire

[Staszic49]

"Jensen was wounded near Warsaw in the summer of 1944 (just before the guetto uprising), and transferred to a hospital."

Actally, the Warsaw Ghetto uprising took place in April 1943, the Warsaw uprising (by the Armia Krajowa - Polish Home Army) started Aug.1, 1944 and "Wiking" was in the area (the Radzymin panzer battle, when Lino Massarie was killed) and there were elements of it involved in the uprising's brutal supression

[Mikedc]

Hey Michael,
Here some extra info for your file on Jensen. And thanks for displaying your info here as well, did had most of it but not all so it was very welcome.
He followed the 8. Shortened Wartime Course(8. Kriegs-Junker-Lehrgang)at Bad Tölz between 8-6-42 and 5-12-42.
He got promoted to SS-Junker der Waffen-SS on 20-7-42.
He got promoted to SS-Standartenjunker der Waffen-SS on 1-10-42.
He got promoted to SS-Standartenoberjunker der Waffen-SS on 1-12-42.

Greetings, Mike