Canadian Orders "Take No Prisoners"

[Penn44]

Penn44 -- You wrote:

Do you believe everything you read from a convicted Nazi war criminal?

Where did you get your information that SS-Obersturmbannfuehrer Hubert Meyer was a convicted war criminal?

My misprint.

Penn44

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[David Thompson]

As I said earlier in this thread, at viewtopic.php?p=1228038#p1228038

In this thread, I'd like to stick to a discussion of the alleged "take no prisoners" order. I'm also interested in the quote which started this thread:

Kurt Meyer reported what happened in the handling of the German prisoners of war by the Canadian troops:

"On the 7th of June I was given a notebook taken from the body of a dead Canadian captain. In addition to handwritten orders, the notes stated that 'no prisoners were to be taken'. Some Canadian prisoners were asked to verify these instructions...they confirmed orders that if prisoners impeded the advance, they were not to be taken"

and whether this is something that Kurt Meyer said, and if so, where? Could the Canadian documentary scriptwriter have confused Kurt Meyer with Hubert Meyer? And if so, why was the "no prisoners were to be taken if they might impede the attacking Allied forces" part of the quote omitted?

This strafing tangent is off-topic, and I'm getting annoyed at you, Penn44, for unnecessarily personalizing this digression from the subject under discussion. Even if the issue was whether allied pilots deliberately strafed civilians -- which in this thread it isn't -- quibbling over the details of a translated description adds nothing to the discussion, nor does it tend toward a resolution of the issue being discussed. Furthermore, invidious references to "the Nazi Meyer" and "Finnish examples of UFO abductions" fall well below the standards our readers expect of this forum.

Further off-topic posts will be deleted.

[Scharf]

Sry David, but I have to say that man is incredible, I mean Penn. I know my aircraft-post was off-topic, but I don't get this. First man asks sources, and then sources mean nothing.( ufo-abductions etc )
I take this a little bit personally, as a finn....finnish sources are not accurate.
But it is so easy to deny all this, like aircraft hunting civilians, when there has been no modern war in home country.

David, you can delete this, if you want so...I don't write in this topic anymore.

Scharf

[David Thompson]

Scharf -- You wrote:

David, you can delete this, if you want so...I don't write in this topic anymore.

I'll let Penn44 see it first, just in case he doesn't realize how problematic his behavior has become.

[David Thompson]

An opinion post from ahf, which added nothing of factual interest to this discussion of alleged Canadian "take no prisoners" orders, was deleted by the moderator pursuant to previous thread warnings at at viewtopic.php?p=1228038#p1228038 and viewtopic.php?p=1229845#p1229845 - DT.

[David Thompson]

The posts dealing with strafing attacks have been moved to the "Atrocities of 12. SS-Panzer-Division 'Hitlerjugend'"
thread at:

viewtopic.php?f=6&t=109598

[klambie]

I have posted the affadavits of Maj Roberts and two OR's of the Regina Rifles related to the action at La Villenueve on this forum:

http://www.mapleleafup.org/forums/showthread.php?t=6353

[David Thompson]

Thanks, klambie.

[gunslinger]

If this is about truth finding, i just dont know.
Its this, against another one"s word, sworn under oath, people will tell you everything under oath.
There is to much emotion involved to get an clear picture, as i have read al sort of statements on forums.
Let me say it did hapen, shooting of pow's, i do believe that, its a part of war , we dont like but it hapens.
Howmany, at what place, and under what of circumstances, Who was there to tell?..you? me?
why we wanna know so badly, because its horror?? for justice ? c'mon
I saw horror on CNN when an US Marine shot ,point blank range an unarmed and wounded iraki right in front of the camera.
There is a lot to tell about human behavior and shooting of pow's but i,m no PhD.
I do believe there was no official written order for shooting pow's, not by the Canadians and not by the 12HJ, why?
I saw to many photo's of POW in good condition on both sides.
It did happen, and on both sides, thats war, it always happens.


my 2cents
regards