SS-Obersturmbannführer Dr. Bernhard Frank resurfaces
SS-Obersturmbannführer Dr. Bernhard Frank resurfaces
There's been some press about Dr. Bernhard Frank in the past two days. Does anyone have any way to confirm or refute these claims that he was responsible for ordering mass executions? Some good photos of him too.
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=340
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0eXASIpMo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Frank
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world ... .html?_r=1
Thanks in advance.
http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=340
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=np0eXASIpMo
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bernhard_Frank
http://www.nytimes.com/2010/12/08/world ... .html?_r=1
Thanks in advance.
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Many thanks for sharing this.
Here is the one-page "Preliminary Interrogation Report" prepared at SAIC (Seventh Army Interrogation Center, Augsburg) on SS-Ostubaf. Dr. Frank (Source: Interrogation Records Prepared for War Crimes Proceedings at Nuernberg, 1945-1947/OCCPAC Interrogation Transcripts And Related Records: Frank, Bernhard; Publication Number M1270, Record Group RG238, available at http://www.footnote.com )
Best wishes,
~ Mike
Here is the one-page "Preliminary Interrogation Report" prepared at SAIC (Seventh Army Interrogation Center, Augsburg) on SS-Ostubaf. Dr. Frank (Source: Interrogation Records Prepared for War Crimes Proceedings at Nuernberg, 1945-1947/OCCPAC Interrogation Transcripts And Related Records: Frank, Bernhard; Publication Number M1270, Record Group RG238, available at http://www.footnote.com )
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Re: SS-Obersturmbannführer Dr. Bernhard Frank resurfaces
Hi
This is quite an amazing post.Mr Gould has done well in his research by gaining the trust of a senior ex SS Officer.
My question is he has filed a lawsuit in Washington D.C Frank is in Germany,if the case goes in Gould s favor how can it be enforced in Germany ?
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Dutto1
This is quite an amazing post.Mr Gould has done well in his research by gaining the trust of a senior ex SS Officer.
My question is he has filed a lawsuit in Washington D.C Frank is in Germany,if the case goes in Gould s favor how can it be enforced in Germany ?
Regards
Dutto1
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Having a quick scan on Google there is quite a few articles in the English press about Gould and his work most of it questions his motives.The German Goverment don t appear to have a problem with Frank he has lived under his own name for decades,and Frank published his biography five years ago in Germany.Efraim Zuroff does not seem impressed by Goulds claims "He s attributed with far more responsibilty and criminal guilt than he actually deserves.Thats not to say he is not a Nazi-even a a zealous Nazi who still today identifies with the National Socialist movement-but theres a big difference between that and portraying him as one of the key operatives in the Nazi Holocaust ".
Gould has provided an interesting video etc but i think one has to question his motives considering the lack of interest from Germany and Israel in prosecuting Frank.
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Dutto1
Gould has provided an interesting video etc but i think one has to question his motives considering the lack of interest from Germany and Israel in prosecuting Frank.
Regards
Dutto1
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Thanks for your contributions guys. It would be interesting to know what exactly Frank did in Russia in 1941-2. Anyhow, it's interesting how the rivalry between "Nazi hunters" is what's shaping the man's past...
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I think the whole story is really sad and disgusting, and Gould should be ashamed of himself, for falsely winning the confidence of an old man, to accuse him of dubious charges and make money off him.
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Mr.Gould's behaviour is a shame, trying to get PR this way....as I have heard this 'hero' got the fitting response by Mrs.Frank
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Totally agree i think Gould has done well gaining Franks trust but his intentions are dishonorable hes out to sell a few books!Jan-Hendrik wrote:Mr.Gould's behaviour is a shame, trying to get PR this way....as I have heard this 'hero' got the fitting response by Mrs.Frank
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I am pretty sure if Frank had any case to answer he would have been tried years ago the Simon Wiesenthal centre have no interest in him.Gould s action will give the research community a bad name because of his actions.
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Re: SS-Obersturmbannführer Dr. Bernhard Frank resurfaces
Mr. Gould is a bottom feeding low life scum bag, period! His intent here is for his own personal gain not for justice of any kind.
His NY Times story has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese. He claims to have bought or been offered Goerings pistol that was produced to the Allies at his surrender? That pistol is in the museum at West Point.
I truly hope this claim does not even see the light of a Civil Court room. Our justice system is bogged down enough as it. If I were an attorney representing Mr. Frank my first question to Mr. Gould would be "Have you ever been convicted of a crime of moral turpitude?" If Mr. Gould answers truthfully case dismissed. See Mr.Goulds NY Times article ref. his drug use, history of being a drunk, etc.
His NY Times story has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese. He claims to have bought or been offered Goerings pistol that was produced to the Allies at his surrender? That pistol is in the museum at West Point.
I truly hope this claim does not even see the light of a Civil Court room. Our justice system is bogged down enough as it. If I were an attorney representing Mr. Frank my first question to Mr. Gould would be "Have you ever been convicted of a crime of moral turpitude?" If Mr. Gould answers truthfully case dismissed. See Mr.Goulds NY Times article ref. his drug use, history of being a drunk, etc.
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Even if the case goes ahead American law is not applicable in Germany.JurgenHaack wrote:Mr. Gould is a bottom feeding low life scum bag, period! His intent here is for his own personal gain not for justice of any kind.
His NY Times story has more holes in it then a block of swiss cheese. He claims to have bought or been offered Goerings pistol that was produced to the Allies at his surrender? That pistol is in the museum at West Point.
I truly hope this claim does not even see the light of a Civil Court room. Our justice system is bogged down enough as it. If I were an attorney representing Mr. Frank my first question to Mr. Gould would be "Have you ever been convicted of a crime of moral turpitude?" If Mr. Gould answers truthfully case dismissed. See Mr.Goulds NY Times article ref. his drug use, history of being a drunk, etc.
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Hello,
I agree, I think Mr. Gould is full of crap regarding Bernhard Frank. For someone who spent years around Frank it sounds like Gould did very little research and assumed like most people that just because Frank was in the SS, that he must have taken part in the Final Solution. I think even Simon Wiesenthal would discredit Gould if he was still alive.
Best,
James
I agree, I think Mr. Gould is full of crap regarding Bernhard Frank. For someone who spent years around Frank it sounds like Gould did very little research and assumed like most people that just because Frank was in the SS, that he must have taken part in the Final Solution. I think even Simon Wiesenthal would discredit Gould if he was still alive.
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James
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From 9.8.1941, Frank was "mit Id beauftrag" within the Führungsabteilung of the Kommandostab "Reichsführer-SS". Before that date, he was Ordonnanz Offizier b. Id (SS-Stubaf. Ernst Rode). To point him as the man who started the Holocaust is simply nonsense.
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Re: SS-Obersturmbannführer Dr. Bernhard Frank resurfaces
Hello,
Hstuf Franck held the war diary of the Kommandostab "Reichsführer SS" as of August 01, 1941 to September 18, 1941
Source Kriegstagebuch N° 1 Kommandostab RF SS
If he didn't participate directly in massacres, he is at least a passive actor and he saw a number of reports.
Regards
Patrick
Hstuf Franck held the war diary of the Kommandostab "Reichsführer SS" as of August 01, 1941 to September 18, 1941
Source Kriegstagebuch N° 1 Kommandostab RF SS
If he didn't participate directly in massacres, he is at least a passive actor and he saw a number of reports.
Regards
Patrick
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Hello Patrick,
You are right about that as the SS-Kavallerie Units and especially the 1. SS-Inf. Brigade were no angels and committed many atrocities. I know the number of participants according to researchers in the past was around 50,000 who actually took part in War Crimes as members of the SS but the ones who kept the reports and new about it were of course much much higher. The Germans fried their own goose by being such excellent bookkeepers regarding their activities.
James
You are right about that as the SS-Kavallerie Units and especially the 1. SS-Inf. Brigade were no angels and committed many atrocities. I know the number of participants according to researchers in the past was around 50,000 who actually took part in War Crimes as members of the SS but the ones who kept the reports and new about it were of course much much higher. The Germans fried their own goose by being such excellent bookkeepers regarding their activities.
James
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http://www.pjtv.com/?cmd=mpg&mpid=340& ... Kgod-RKgoA
Bernhard Frank, one of Himmler’s 12 closest associates: his signature appears below Himmler's on the first order of the Holocaust. Attacking the man who discovered Himmler's subordinate is the real sign of the bottom feeders. It's an amazing indictment of Germany as well, which did nothing about this old SS man.
Bernhard Frank, one of Himmler’s 12 closest associates: his signature appears below Himmler's on the first order of the Holocaust. Attacking the man who discovered Himmler's subordinate is the real sign of the bottom feeders. It's an amazing indictment of Germany as well, which did nothing about this old SS man.