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How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby British Sapper on 29 May 2011 23:34

Simperator wrote:Hi,

I But I've never seen statistics about that, and the Nazi propaganda is not reliable (for example, they stated that Chaplin was a jew, he wasn't.).

Simon



Seems Chaplin regarded himself as being jewish and his half brother was indeed jewish, after reading the below article it's no wonder there is confusion;

http://jewishquarterly.org/2010/11/char ... or-goyish/

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby Schnitzel on 20 Jul 2011 12:40

I am a little hesitant in posting this link because it is from a site that supports Holocaust Revisionism.
It does however, speak to the topic of the original post.
http://mk.christogenea.org/_files/Germa ... roblem.PDF
is a PDF facsimile of an entire original book from scanned photos. It is a 29 MB download,
It is entitled "Germany And The Jewish Problem" and is written by a Dr. F.K.Weibe.
It gives extensive statistics and the social structure of Jews in Germany during the Weimar period.

I think this work is pre-Hitler but I can find no other reference to a Dr. Weibe anywhere.
If this type of book is too offensive to the forum, by all means delete this post.

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby Grisu on 20 Jul 2011 14:49

Thanks for sharing this link, Schnitzel. In my view, there's nothing offensive about it, as most readers of this forum know how to view and evaluate propaganda from the NS period. And the pamphlet you link to is a fine example of it.

As far as I can judge, this is the translation of Karl Friedrich Wiebe's "Deutschland und die Judenfrage" (1939) which was translated into several languages (English, French, Spanish). The "Institut zum Studium der Judenfrage" (which was the publisher of Wiebe's translation) was a branch of Goebbel's propaganda ministry and was associated with people like Eberhard Taubert (script of "Der ewige Jude [The eternal Jew]"), Wilhelm Ziegler (Die Judenfrage in der modernen Welt, Berlin: Junker & Dünnhaupt, 1937), Hans Georg (or Hansgeorg) Trurnit (ed. with Willi Friedrich Könitzer: Weltentscheidung in der Judenfrage. Der Endkampf nach 3000 Jahren Judengegnerschaft. Dresden: Zwinger, 1939).

The task of this branch was to produce "scientific" anti-semitic material, so Wiebe's treatment of the topic is no surprise. In his pamphlet, he portrays the "Jewish problem" as global and historical phenomenon, and national socialism (merely) reacting to it. This puts Wiebe's work in line with many anti-semitic writings that have a very similar tone.

While reading on the topic, I found an interesting passage, which I'd like to share. The quote is from Potthast (2002:30f.):

Die Pseudo-Sachlickeit in der Erforschung der Gegner des Reiches hatte [...] höchsten Stellenwert: "Wir werden in unserem Blatt 'Die Judenfrage' eine neue Gruppe von Veröffentlichungen bringen, die etwa unter dem Titel 'Wir stellen vor' jeweils das Portrait eines Juden zeichnen. [...] Es müssen völlig durchgearbeitete Beiträge sein, die in nichts an einen der üblichen Lebensläufe erinnern, sondern klar und einprägsam die politische oder sonstige Rolle des Betreffenden herausarbeiten." Auch auf sauberen Stil war zu achten: "Die Form der Darstellung soll sachlich und im guten Sinne wissenschaftlich sein. Überflüssige Polemiken und Spitzen sind zu vermeiden. Gutes Material spricht für sich selbst." So beschrieb Mitte 1938 hans Georg Trurnit vom Institut zum Studium der Judenfrage im Propagandaministerium seine Arbeitsweise im wissenschaftlich-publizistischen Kampf gegen das Judentum.


References:

Horst Junginger: Von der philologischen zur völkischen Religionswissenschaft. Das Fach Religionswissenschaft an der Universität Tübingen von der Mitte des 19. Jahrhunderts bis zum Ende des Dritten Reiches (= Contubernium, vol. 51). Stuttgart: Steiner, 1999, p. 193.

Patricia von Papen: "Schützenhilfe nationalsozialistischer Judenpolitik. Die 'Judenforschung' des 'Reichsinstituts für Geschichte des neuen Deutschland' 1933-1945", in: Jahrbuch zur Geschichte und Wirkung des Holocaust 1998/1999, pp. 17-42, esp. p. 37, fn. 11.

Jan Björn Potthast: Das jüdische Zentralmuseum der SS in Prag. Gegnerforschung und Völkermord im Nationalsozialismus. Forschung, Vernichtung und die Endlösung der Erinnerung. Frankfurt/Main et al.: Campus, 2002.

Max Weinreich: Hitler's professors. The part of scholarship in Germany's crimes against the Jewish people, New Haven et al.: Yale UP, 1999 (repr. 1946).

+ various library catalogues

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby waldzee on 03 Feb 2012 16:10

RE: the http://mk.christogenea.org/_files/Germa ... roblem.PDF

If you check the last page it was written after 1938. I made it as far as page 11...

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby Sid Guttridge on 03 Feb 2012 19:52

Hi Arto,

In 1986-7 I fell in with and backpacked across northern Chile, Peru and Ecuador with an Israeli air force pilot on sabbatical. He had less problems than I did because, as a pilot, he got free flights with several Latin American air forces, notably with the Brazilians around Amazonia. We parted company when he got a free trip on an Ecuadoran Air Force transport flight to the Galapagos Islands, but they would not take me.

Cheers,

Sid.

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby michael mills on 04 Feb 2012 00:32

Hitler's animus expressed in Part II of "Mein Kampf" was directed in particular against Jewish Marxists in the Social Democratic Party, whom he saw as having undermined the German war effort during the First World War by spreading defeatism, and finally by instigating revolution in November 1918. These were the persons he castigated as the "November criminals".

He saw the Social Democratic Party as it existed before, during, and after the war as a subversive Marxist movement run by Jews, having as its aim the overthrow of the existing social order in Germany and its replacement by a Jewish ruling class (either open or disguised), and using as its instrument a misled German working class.

But Hitler was also strongly opposed to non-Jewish, non-Marxist political leaders in Weimar Germany, even nationalists such as Stresemann.

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Re: How prominent were German Jews in Weimar politics

Postby David Thompson on 04 Feb 2012 04:36

The discussion has started to wander off into the bushes, so let's get back to the thread question.

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