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uberjude wrote:a photo of Marchenko
The two men pictured, both wearing Nazi SS uniforms, were identified in a 1961 Soviet war crimes trial as "Tkachuk," a Treblinka guard, and "Ivan Marczenko, the person who operated the motors of the gas chamber (and whom) the Jewish inmates called `Ivan Grozny," said Nishnic, quoting Israeli defense lawyer Yoram Sheftel's translation of excerpts from the trial transcript.
Kristian S. wrote:No, he was most likely not. The actual "Ivan the Terrible" was a man named Ivan Marchenko:On July 29, 1993, a five-judge panel of the Israeli Supreme Court overturned the guilty verdict on appeal. Their ruling was based on the written statements of 37 former guards at Treblinka that identified Ivan the Terrible as "Ivan Marchenko." U.S. officials had originally been aware, without informing Demjanjuk's attorneys, of the testimony of two of these German guards. However the Israeli justices mentioned how Demjanjuk had incorrectly listed his mother's maiden name as "Marchenko" in his 1951 application for U.S. visa. Demjanjuk says he just wrote a common Ukrainian surname after he forgot his mother's real name. ]
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ivan_March ... _in_Israel
edit: Ivan Marchenko was killed in 1943 during an uprising in Treblinka.
I read some where that Ivan the Terrible was last seen leaving a brothel in Croatia in April 1945 ??
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s. Yoram Sheftel "The conspiracy to convict John Demjanjuk as 'Ivan Terrible' " p.176:paolosilv wrote:there is an image of Ivan Marchenko, or Ivan the Terrible. I have not been able to find this photo online.
paolosilv wrote:Ivan Tkachuk, number 1284
I could find no info on this Trawniki guard, shown in the above photo. Thanks for any info.
nickterry wrote:This is a very stupid argument. Plenty of other Trawniki men who were inducted after March 1942 also signed a Dienstverpflichtung which referred to the Beauftragte/SS-und Polizeistuetzpunkte. Ivan Tkachuk, number 1284, signed just such a service obligation (Archive of the SBU Kiev, Shul'ts Trial, Case 66437, Archival No. 14, Vol. 31, pp.267-8).
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