Hitler and the Armenians

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Hitler and the Armenians

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Post by Peter H » 12 May 2003, 07:53

A lot of Turkish sources deny Hitler's comments on the Armenians in WW1('Who today remembers the extermination of the Armenians').Was the Nuremberg findings correct on this statement being true?

http://www.ataa.org/ataa/ref/hitler.html

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Post by Roberto » 12 May 2003, 15:35

Moulded wrote:A lot of Turkish sources deny Hitler's comments on the Armenians in WW1('Who today remembers the extermination of the Armenians').Was the Nuremberg findings correct on this statement being true?

http://www.ataa.org/ataa/ref/hitler.html
The question assumes that the IMT concluded on this statement having been made at one of Hitler's speeches at the Berghof on 22 August 1939.
It seems that the IMT did not reach this conclusion but dismissed the document containing the statement in question instead:
[...]Just one week prior to the launching of the attack on Poland, Hitler made an address to his chief military commanders, at Obersalzberg, on 22 August 1939. [Three reports of this meeting are available: (L-3; 798-PS; and 1014-PS). The first of the three documents (L-3) was obtained through an American newspaperman, and purported to be original minutes of the Obersalzberg meeting, transmitted to the newspaperman by some other 'person. There was no proof of actual delivery to the intermediary by the person who took the notes. That document (L-3) therefore, merely served as an incentive to search for something better.[my emphasis] The result was that two other documents (798-PS) and (1014-PS) were discovered in the OKW files at Flensberg. These two documents indicate that Hitler on that day made two speeches, one apparently in the morning and one in the afternoon. Comparison of those two documents with the first document (L-3) led to the conclusion that the first document was a lightly garbled merger of the two speeches, and therefore was not relied upon.[my emphasis][...]


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http://www.nizkor.org/hweb/people/h/hit ... oland.html


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Post by Peter H » 14 May 2003, 14:04

Thanks for that,much appreciated.

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Post by Abdul Hadi Pasha » 21 May 2003, 21:12

The texts Roberto references make no mention of Armenians in the original German transcripts, and that additional sentence appears only in some English translations. One can only wonder at the agenda of whomever added it.

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Post by David Thompson » 21 May 2003, 22:17

Abdul -- Could you provide us with a copy of, or reference to, the original German transcripts you mention?

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Post by Roberto » 22 May 2003, 00:16

Abdul Hadi Pasha wrote:The texts Roberto references make no mention of Armenians in the original German transcripts, and that additional sentence appears only in some English translations.
Yep, that’s why the IMT politely called document L3 "a lightly garbled merger of the two speeches" and accordingly did not rely on it.
Abdul Hadi Pasha wrote:One can only wonder at the agenda of whomever added it.
I guess sensationalist journalists were as plentiful a commodity back then as they are nowadays.

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Post by Dan » 22 May 2003, 02:12

Great work by Abdul, and Roberto.

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