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Post by danyb » 12 Feb 2017, 18:12

Hello All!

in his book , Ernst Klee give that Brylke(Brylka) was acquitted in Krakau.

what is the date of trial ??

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Post by George_W » 12 Feb 2017, 18:22

He was sentenced to 15 years in Krakow on 6/12/1948.

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Post by wm » 12 Feb 2017, 23:16

alanlee wrote:Thanks for share. Brylke must feeled despair when he was informed he will be send back to Poland :(
He was a simple, almost illiterate man. He probably didn't understand what was happening. And his farm (I think it was a farm, but it's not certain) was in Poland, so it was likely he would return anyway.

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Post by wm » 12 Feb 2017, 23:26

George_W wrote:Julius Donner extradited from US zone on 25/02/1947 and sentenced to 3 years. Released in 1950.
Brylke was indeed German from Poland (Volksdeutsch) so no Polish responsibility.George
It really doesn't matter - if he was a Pole or a Volksdeutsche.
The responsibility for the crime lies with the criminal, not the nation or the group he belongs to.
It would be different if the Polish Government or a representative Polish political group ordered or supported it. But this didn't happen.

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Post by George_W » 12 Feb 2017, 23:30

wm wrote:He was a simple, almost illiterate man. He probably didn't understand what was happening. And his farm (I think it was a farm, but it's not certain) was in Poland, so it was likely he would return anyway.
He was a farmer by profession so it is possible.

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Post by alanlee » 13 Feb 2017, 14:15

Hi, everybody, I found these men has a typical European face, if you look them deeply, you may feel they are similar to somebody living around you. :roll:
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Post by wm » 13 Feb 2017, 16:09

Denzinger (a harness maker by trade) was unlucky, someone remembered him executing two unnamed Jews during the death march to Mittelbau-Dora so he got six years.

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Both extradited from US zone. Dorn sentenced to 3 years.

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Post by wm » 13 Feb 2017, 22:55

alanlee wrote:I don't know, but it is obviously, they were impossible to wear the SS uniform after 1945. I guess they has been arrested by Soviet army and then transfered to Poland. The uniform was prepared by Poland government for photo purpose. You can see the they wear same uniform :)
It's possible they did to make easier their identification by former Auschwitz prisoners, who never saw them out of uniform.

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Post by alanlee » 14 Feb 2017, 07:13

wm wrote:
alanlee wrote:I don't know, but it is obviously, they were impossible to wear the SS uniform after 1945. I guess they has been arrested by Soviet army and then transfered to Poland. The uniform was prepared by Poland government for photo purpose. You can see the they wear same uniform :)
It's possible they did to make easier their identification by former Auschwitz prisoners, who never saw them out of uniform.
Right, my other question: How did the US and British authority to have them captured, since they were just a private not officer. :?

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Post by alanlee » 14 Feb 2017, 07:21

George_W wrote:Both extradited from US zone. Dorn sentenced to 3 years.

George
Thank you, George, I curious whether any pictures taken during they have captured or extradited to Poland existing or not ?

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Post by George_W » 14 Feb 2017, 09:23

From the extradition i'm afraid not but the British or US authorities probably made a photo of them during their internement.

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Post by michael mills » 15 Feb 2017, 02:28

BarKochba wrote:
Any information about what happened to the 9000 brutes after the war?
These 9000 men had at one time or another served in the Guard Battalion at Auschwitz, and were not part of the permanent camp staff who managed the prisoners. The reason for the large number is that they did not all serve in the Auschwitz Guard Battalion at the same time, but were circulated into and out of the camp, to and from Waffen-SS units at the front. Very often they were men who had been wounded at the front and were no longer fit for front-line duty.

The function of the Guard Battalions at all concentration camps was to guard the camp perimeter, ie to sit in watch towers, and also to escort prisoners sent to work outside the camp. They did not usually come into the camp, and did not come into direct contact with the prisoners in the same way as the actual camp staff.

Accordingly, there was not much opportunity for members of the Guard Battalions to carry out atrocities against the prisoner population, although witness testimony did give examples of guards conspiring with members of the camp staff or Kapos in direct control of prisoners to fake escape attempts so that the guard could shoot the "escapee" and be rewarded with extra leave and extra rations.

The general non-involvement of members of the Guard Battalions in the mistreatment of prisoners is reflected in the charges against the men extradited to Poland, which in most cases seems to have been simply that of membership in the Waffen-SS rather than of war crimes or crimes against humanity. Even the two men who were given the longest prison terms were not charged with cruelty toward the prisoners, and one of them was even stated to have had a "correct attitude" toward the prisoners under his control in the Auschwitz carpentry shop.

Hence the blanket description of these 9000 men as "brutes" is an exaggeration, and reflective of prejudice rather than of historical knowledge.

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Post by alanlee » 15 Feb 2017, 13:19

Gottfried Grubel, picture taken just after have captured.
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Post by George_W » 15 Feb 2017, 18:13

Extradited by the British and died before trial.

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