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gordon anderson wrote:.................."I therefore request to consider the possibility to hand over the convict the decision for execution at 9 in the morning,and to establish execution time at 5 or 6 pm.""
Paul, can you inform of us who is speaking during the long quoted section? Is the the Prison Director, Reichhart ?? Who

Pete26 wrote:Does it really matter to the condemned whether the executioner is friendly or not? The only thing that matters is how competent the executioner is.

Paul53 wrote:Muenchen/Stadelheim.
Part 1.
The central execution site for the Bavaria and Franken area was housed in Munchen/Stadelheim prison,and was from 1937 onwards, one of 11 central execution sites in Germany.Average inmate population 782 male, 151 female.A description from 1940,gives a view of the execution building:""The little extension serving as execution room in Stadelheim, consists of two rooms, separated by a large black curtain.In the front room, the verdict is once again read out for the condemned. In the back,behind the curtain, the execution apparatus is located.At the reading of the verdict, the condemned sits with the back to the curtain.After the reading,the condemned is binded with a blindfold with rubber edges.At the same time, the curtain is raised.With the eyes blindfolded, the condemned is brought quickly to the Fallbeil,strapped on and beheaded.Applying the blindfold is not carried out when the convict requests so.""
As the prison Muenchen/Stadelheim already had a usable Fallbeil,the deliverance of a new Berlin/Tegel made one, was not needed.Already in November 1941, the institution was not able anymore to supply enough cellroom for the the newly arrived death candidates.The personell,involved in the execution procedure, could not cope with the increased amount of executions,and proposed a change in the execution time.
"" In Muenchen/Stadelheim,there are now 26 people waiting for execution.Although in the last few days,9 persons were executed and two were pardoned, the total number of convicts does not decrease by the constantly newly arriving condemned.As usual, the execution warrants are given to the convicts at 6 o clock in the evening, and are executed at 6 am the following morning.The large amount of executions does raise the question,whether the considerable difficulties,that are formed every time by this procedure at the time of execution, could be solved by execution at another time of day.The persons ,taking part in the executions,are living in remote parts of the town.As there are mostly several executions on one day,where several State Prosecuters from several districts are to be present,the executioners have to be picked up by the small prison car,which can house only three persons, as the tram is not available at this early hour.The executioners have to be ready to be picked up already at four o clock am.It is already difficult for the driver of the car, to find, in the dark of night, the various adresses of the people involved in the execution,living as they do in the most varied parts of Muenchen,the car trips are themselves dangerous because of the frozen and snow-covered streets.Delays cannot be avoided.The prison officials lack sleep most of the week,yet are bound to their duty in daytime.Members of their family are also disturbed in their nights rest by the early rising of those involved.Regarding this last point, especially the prison docter, dr Klage,is concerned.In the night before execution, usually 8 to 10 guards are involved for guard duty, which means that ,lacking the necessary personell,the guards on duty are in the long run seriously overworked.
All of these problems may be solved,by changing the hitherto established time of execution.Those involved, could use the tram, petrol would be spared,the personell could be called on for duty when already in the prison on their dayly job,the extra expenses for night duty could fall away.I therefore request to consider the possibility to hand over the convict the decision for execution at 9 in the morning,and to establish execution time at 5 or 6 pm.""

lokman wrote:Pete26 wrote:Does it really matter to the condemned whether the executioner is friendly or not? The only thing that matters is how competent the executioner is.
I don't think the poster is implying that in any way whatsoever - what makes you think this is the case?


Paul53 wrote:It is hard to tell if this practice was adopted throughout the German empire. There seems to be a lot of difference in the way the various counties executed.Waltenbacher states that the rubber-banded blind fold was only used in three counties.

lokman wrote:Pete26 wrote:Does it really matter to the condemned whether the executioner is friendly or not? The only thing that matters is how competent the executioner is.
I don't think the poster is implying that in any way whatsoever - what makes you think this is the case?

Pete26 wrote:Does it really matter to the condemned whether the executioner is friendly or not? The only thing that matters is how competent the executioner is.

JTG wrote:Pete26 wrote:Does it really matter to the condemned whether the executioner is friendly or not? The only thing that matters is how competent the executioner is.
Albert Pierrepoint thought that compassion was an integral part of his job, together with his expertise...
John




Paul53 wrote:Yes,it was purely a job.The same arm raising goes for Hehr by the way. Hehr was asked to abandon it .


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