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Postby Roberto on 22 Mar 2002 21:11

in the sequence of an anti-Semitic remark by Mr. Tchort.

As I already told the moderators, I consider this to be the wrong approach to such True Believers. Their nonsense should be exposed and
ridiculed, but they should not be censored.

On the thread

http://thirdreichforum.com/phpBB2/viewt ... 543a6f4b83

Tchort wrote:yeah,better watch us 'neo-Nazis'. A jew is not a Dane, just like an Ethiopian isn't a German and an Arab isn't a jap. jews are a semitic people, as are arabs-sort of like Norwegians being Teutons and the ebnglish being Celts-they are a distinct ethnic group. They may live in the boundries of an ethno-based nation, but that doesnt,by any means, make them one of their countrymen.


To which my reply is:

That's right, a Jew can never been a German citizen. And yet the German Jews in the First World War felt so much like German citizens that 100,000 of them joined the Imperial Army and 12,000 fell on the field of honor. The Jewish population of Germany at the time shouldn't have been much higher than half a million. Compare with the percentages of military service and war dead for the general population.

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Postby Marcus Wendel on 22 Mar 2002 22:39

Actually that thread was locked because it was going off topic, but I apparently forgot to write that in the thread.


btw. I regard locked objectional threads to be the correct approach to limit that crap in the forum.

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Postby Birgitte Heuschkel on 23 Mar 2002 05:12

Tchort wrote:yeah,better watch us 'neo-Nazis'. A jew is not a Dane, just like an Ethiopian isn't a German and an Arab isn't a jap. jews are a semitic people, as are arabs-sort of like Norwegians being Teutons and the ebnglish being Celts-they are a distinct ethnic group. They may live in the boundries of an ethno-based nation, but that doesnt,by any means, make them one of their countrymen.


Normally I'd respect a locked thread, but this one I do feel a need to argue with. I have a friend who's 29 years old today and decidedly Asian to look at, adopted from Korea at age less-than-one. She is obviously not Danish (read: tall, Caucasian) to look at. However, having spent 28 years out of 29 in Denmark, raised by Danish parents, and having Danish as her native language -- what is she?

She once approached a confessed neo-nazi with this exact question. The answer she got was that since she was "culturally Danish" she would be allowed to remain in Denmark after "the take-over", but in order to prevent future racial pollution, she'd "obviously" have to be sterilized.

I rest my case.

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Postby Dan on 23 Mar 2002 05:43

I'm not sure what point you're making. Sounds like the young lady and her descendants will do your people proud. The fact that one out of 10,000 Danes has emotional problems doesn't change anything. She wants to assimilate. Her great grandkids wont be a security risk to your people, there will be no divided loyalties. This isn't a good analogy at all.

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Postby Birgitte Heuschkel on 23 Mar 2002 05:46

Dan wrote:I'm not sure what point you're making. Sounds like the young lady and her descendants will do your people proud.


Guess that'll teach me to be more clear. That is exactly the point I'm trying to make. This girl is Danish as they get, and I don't buy the argument that you cannot become assimilated into another ethnic group (which someone else posted).

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Postby Dan on 23 Mar 2002 06:01

At the risk of beating a dead horse, what Tchort said is true on the one hand, but in my opinion is one sided, and doesn't address the big picture, which is assimilation.

Very best, and still wanting to visit Denmark
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Danish as they get?

Postby ZARATHUSTRA on 28 Mar 2002 03:26

He who liveth amongst the good - pity teacheth him to lie. Pity maketh stifling air for all free souls. For the stupidity of the good is unfathomable.

Thus Spake Zarathustra
"Your enemy shall ye seek; your war shall ye wage, and for the sake of your thoughts! And if your thoughts succumb, your uprightness shall still shout triumph thereby!"

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Zarathustra

Postby David C. Clarke on 28 Mar 2002 03:47

Proving that as well as being the opiate of the masses, religion can also be the tripe of the masses. Commissar D, the Unbeliever :twisted:

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Postby Tchort on 30 Mar 2002 16:04

I don't think a few of you who responded understood the reason for my post and what it meant.

Medor Jurgen-I really don't care how many jews fought in WWI on Germanys behalf, and if you want I could enlighten you as to why I don't with some more 'Nazi logic'. 'nonsense' ha!it's amusing to hear things from individuals like you. How much do you know about /it/? hmm? how often to you read mmodern NS doctrine? how many hours a day do you spend reading White racist literature? Please enlighten me. I'm intrested to know how you assume you know what /we/ beleive and, more importantly, why.


Birgitte Heuschkel-She's a foreigner. A Korean in a foreign country. In regard to her supposed meeting with a 'neo-Nazi'-I've talked to very few at home and abroad who share that sympathy. Foreign ethnicities would be allowed in a country as dipomats, but wouldn't be allowed to integrate or become citizans. Denmark,eh? I remember reading the head of the Danish National Socialist Party was arrested for running down a bunch of communists and anarchists who were attacking the groups HQ :roll:
I adhere to the theory that was originally concocted to seperate countries: the people of the same ethnicity that live together are a country. She is not a Dane by blood.

Dan-you're right,it is one sided-but you need one extreme to counter another (ie that any person can be a Dane or any other people by accepting the culture and living in its borders)


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Postby Dan on 30 Mar 2002 16:14

Birgitte Heuschkel-She's a foreigner. A Korean in a foreign country
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No, that was a story about a Korean she related to the board, she has described herself several times in different ways on the board, and I must assume from these descriptions that she is married, larged-boned, blonde haired and blue eyed.

Dan-you're right,it is one sided-but you need one extreme to counter another (ie that any person can be a Dane or any other people by accepting the culture and living in its borders)


You only need extremes countering each other in dialectic thinking. For Christians, we reject the dialectic, therefor ballance and accuracy become goals.

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Speaking as an Athheist

Postby Richard Murphy on 30 Mar 2002 23:36

Dan,
You are a Christian?

Is it not Chritian teaching that ALL men (And Women, the differentiation just being one example of how the Bible was meant as a method of control.) are created equal?

It's been a long time since I did R.E., but I don't recall any references to nationality or racial superiority.

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Re: Speaking as an Athheist

Postby Dan on 30 Mar 2002 23:48

Is it not Chritian teaching that ALL men (And Women, the differentiation just being one example of how the Bible was meant as a method of control.) are created equal?


No, that's the American consititution. The Bible teaches that we are all of one blood, though.

It's been a long time since I did R.E., but I don't recall any references to nationality or racial superiority.


There is no Darwinism in the Bible, the superiority is one of lifestyles.

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Speaking as another atheist...

Postby Scott Smith on 31 Mar 2002 00:12

Richard wrote:It's been a long time since I did R.E., but I don't recall any references to nationality or racial superiority.


Not that I would know or care, but doesn't the Bible preach the superiority of the Jewish race over the Gentiles or heathens, who are not God's Chosen or Peculiar People?
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Postby Tchort on 31 Mar 2002 02:04

Dan: I was replying to what birdgette wrote, not commenting on her personally. She described a korean in Denmark, so I responded.

Scott Smith: I'm glad you brought that up. The Bible teaches that jews are 'gods chosen people', and that they are persecuted because they are gods chosen ones. Read Chapter 7 of Deutoronomy (sp?) for a good example.

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The Bible and the Right Wing...

Postby David C. Clarke on 31 Mar 2002 03:11

Tchort, it amuses me highly that you quote the Bible. Perhaps you can explain the attraction right-wing racists have to this Jewish text? Commissar D :?

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