Soviet Responsibility at Katyn: pro and con

[waldzee]

Rarog -- You said:

It's a good argument against the theory that the executions took place in that time. Or, as the author says with SARCASM, one has to suppose that as Shvernik and Kaganovich were Jewish there were celebrating, and it's antisemitism.

and:

One has eithe to suggest that there were no executions by that time or admit that two Jews were "vacationing" at the moment.

Of course, I don't care for their ethnicity, but it's a powerful argument for Anti-Semites...

Assuming the story about the "vacation" is true, I don't see that it shows anything except the presence of the two men. The remark about the two men being Jewish, without any evidence showing how that might affect their motivation, is both stupid and irrelevant.

You also said:

But, hell, I understand your predicament!!!!!

The only "predicament here is whether to delete the insulting post, or lock the thread in its entirety.

We don't permit insulting generalizations of that sort here. We don't allow posters to make remarks like that directly, nor do we permit them to be made indirectly by quoting someone else. Don't do it again.

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I would suggest that we keep the thread open.
Katyn is one of the 'opened mysteries' with many unsolved questions - who was responsible, the motives, the extent of the cover up.

[David Thompson]

Waldzee, you wrote, about an exchange I had with rarog:

I would suggest that we keep the thread open.

Don't worry. That exchange took place in 2005.

[waldzee]

Waldzee, you wrote, about an exchange I had with rarog:

I would suggest that we keep the thread open.

Don't worry. That exchange took place in 2005.

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which I felt you handled very well
The subject has become 'topical' in the last eighteen months as Russia has both admittted guilt & is releasing the secret files on the Katyn massacures.
http://article.wn.com/view/2010/11/26/R ... rare_move/

As Russian comedians say:
"In the Soviet Union the past was not always predictable....

[David Thompson]

A frivolous post from Michael Mills, and an unnecessary reply post by Waldzee containing personal remarks about another poster, were removed by this moderator - DT.

[waldzee]

OK. But this information is of no meaning for this discussion.

As prof. Symonides says, Russia IS (present tense, not past tense - not WAS) the party of this Convention.

Maybe my coffee was lacking in strongness department ... I still cannot see what are you driving at?

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It is commendable that Russia has opened files on the Katyn massacure. I believe most Poles wish to see all of the files opened.

where were all the camps , where are all the mass graves.
It would serve as a deterrent to the ongoing massacures of interned personnel in the third world. & eventually bring closure . Real closure.