SS Judge Dr. Konrad Morgen

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Re: SS Judge Dr Konrad Morgen

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Re: SS Judge Dr Konrad Morgen

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Jeff_36 wrote:Bro, I knew that the personnel were from the FC, but Morgen stated that the orders came from the FC which is not true at all. His dating is out of whack and he staes that Wirth ran the whole thing when in fact he was #2 to Globicnik. This is well known.
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Re: SS Judge Dr Konrad Morgen

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Post by michael mills » 18 Dec 2015, 06:50

You will also find that Greiser in Warthegau asked permission of Himmler to exterminate 100K Jews in the Warthegau "using the Brack method" which is another link from exterminations in Poland to the FC but doesn't mean that the FC was administering them.
Are you referring to Greiser's letter to Himmler of 1 May 1942?

You must be, since that letter is the only extent document referring to Greiser's previously having sought and received from Himmler and Heydrich authorisation to submit 100,000 Jews of Reichsgau Wartheland to "Sonderbehandlung", an official Security Police term denoting execution by decree of the Chief of the Security Police without any preceding judicial procedure.

The purpose of the letter of 1 May 1942 was to seek similar authorisation to apply "Sonderbehandlung" to Poles with infectious tuberculosis. In the latter, Greiser stated that the previously approved "Sonderbehandlung" of 100,000 Jews would soon be completed. That was an obvious reference to the exterminations being perpetrated at Chelmno.

Nowhere in the letter of 1May 1942 is there any reference to the method being used to carry out the "Sonderbehandlung", whether by the "Brack method" or any other. Since we do not have the text of Greiser's initial request for authorisation to apply "Sonderbehandlung" to 100,00 Jews of his province, we cannot know whether he made any reference to the "Brack method" in it.

I think you may be confusing Greiser's application to Himmler and Heydrich in respect of the 100,000 Jews of Reichsgau Wartheland, which must have been made in October 1941, at the time when German Jews began to be deported to the Lodz Ghetto, with a draft letter to Hinrich Lohse, Reichskommissar Ostland, prepared for the signature of the Minister for the Occupied Eastern Territories Rosenberg by a senior official of the latter's Ministry, Erhard Wetzler. In that letter there is indeed a reference made to the "Brack remedy" as a means of dealing with German Jews unfit for labour who were about to be deported to Riga, an action to which Lohse had objected, since he did not want to have large numbers of Jews dumped on him.

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Re: SS Judge Dr Konrad Morgen

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Post by Sergey Romanov » 09 Sep 2016, 18:16

There is no evidence of any deal between Morgen and anyone else.
Morgen also testified about his investigation in democratic Germany, where there was no question of a coercion.
Also don't forget that he did not investigate alone, and his companions, such as Wiebeck and Reimers, also testified in the 1960s that they were witnesses to extermination in Auschwitz. Hence Morgen's testimony is largely true.

As to why he said Monowitz, there are two versions. But a preliminary remark: we do know that he knew in 1944 that the gassings took place in Birkenau. This follows from the 1944 protocol of interrogation of E. Hodys (unfortunately only available in English translation).

1. He might have been truly mistaken. That was his own explanation when he was confronted with the contradiction afterwards.

2. Some historians think he was trying to shield the SS.

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