At least it is something different if both populations are not mixed. If they had been mixed it would have been the same: Ethnic cleansing of two different populations, at least if you deport all individuals of the population.
Whad does "mixed" mean ? Both populations were part of the same occupied territory by Soviet Union.
Could you support your view with a document of Stalin or one of his cronies that he ordered the ENTIRE expulsion of the German population?
http://www.ibiblio.org/pha/policy/1945/450802a.html
The conference reached the following agreement on the removal of Germans from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary:
The three Governments having considered the question in all its aspects, recognize that the transfer to Germany of German populations, or elements thereof, remaining in Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, will have to be undertaken. They agree that any transfers that take place should be effected in an orderly and humane manner.
Since the influx of a large number of Germans into Germany would increase the burden already resting on the occupying authorities, they consider that the Allied Control Council in Germany should in the first instance examine the problem with special regard to the question of the equitable distribution of these Germans among the several zones of occupation. They are accordingly instructing their respective representatives on the control council to report to their Governments as soon as possible the extent to which such persons have already entered Germany from Poland, Czechoslovakia and Hungary, and to submit an estimate of the time and rate at which further transfers could be carried out, having regard to the present situation in Germany.
The Czechoslovak Government, the Polish Provisional Government and the control council in Hungary are at the same time being informed of the above and are being requested meanwhile to suspend further expulsions pending the examination by the Governments concerned of the report from their representatives on the control council.
Approved: J. V. STALIN,
HARRY S. TRUMAN,
C. R. ATTLEE.
Of course your claim of transfer of entire German population is wrong, since Germans remain in Poland to this day.
if it had been the case, the Bierut-Decrees were issued by a Pole on behalf of the Polish state.
A puppet in a country occupied and controled by Soviet Union.
Based on Allied decisions.
Btw nothing special since Poles were targets of similiar decisions and decrees, furthermore the decrees are devoid of any importance in polish law since long time.
What was the legal basis for the expulsion of the Polish minority/majority from the Ukraine? A Soviet decree? If yes, then it was executed by Soviet (Russian/Ukrainian) authoritie
Why do you consider moving Poles from Ukraine to Poland an ethnic cleansing-it was a simple population transfer.I have no ill feelings towards Ukrainians, and want no apologies.Saying that Soviets=Ukrainians is simply ignorant as the nation suffered milions of casualites from Soviet hands.
But nevertheless: Expelling the Polish population does not necessarily mean expelling the German population
You still don't understand why Germans were moved, it wasn't an act of vengeance or cruealty, it was made to make room for Poles moved from territories that USSR took in 1939 when it allied itself with Germany against Poland.
Can you imagine, if your ancestors have lived where you live for hundred years and you are forced to leave the place never being able to come back?
Well I sure would hope my ancestors wouldn't try to exterminate their neighbours claiming they are animals.
My grandfather btw lived in Lwow, like his family and he never complained , neither do Poles as a group.
If Stalin had wanted all East Germany to the river Elbe to become Polish territory, then Poland would have expelled all Germans behind the river
What for ? It became Polish territory neverthless.Besides you yourself admit that the population transfer wasn't aimed at the whole group as many Germans neverthless.
But new frontiers don't necessarily mean the expulsion of all Germans from Polish territory where they have lived for centuries. There is no reasonable connection. Poland would today consist of 50 million people, most of them Poles, some of them German.
You seem to ignore several things-housing, food for first.Secondly you forget that for the past 6 years Geramns hunted down Poles like animals, hard to imagine a peacefull coexistance.Third you ignore the fact that the past involvment of German minorities in assisting Hitler's aggression has led Allies(Churchill in particular) that to have peace in Europe, German population must be concentrated in Germany.
Although the expulsions and the excesses were injust
There weren't many excess.As to population transfer, it was harsh but completely justified.
I am all for coming together and building the future. But what I want is that the suffering of ALL people is recognized no matter what their nationality was
Despite losing their homeland, milions of victims and ruined country Poles don't exhibit the desire to demand apologies from Ukrainians, Belarusians etc.They don't view their forced movement as some great suffering. Why is it so different with Germans ? Do you think perhaps they weren't victims of Holocausts leds them to compare harsh realites of postwar life to suffering equal to that of Poles or Jews ?
