Hitler's Antarctic Base: the Myth and Reality.

[uhu]

In P. W. Stahl's book, KG 200, he describes how he was given an alert in late April of 1945 to prepare two BV 222 Flying boats to take "Important Personell" to Antartica. Nothing ever became of it.

[LWD]

The Funkstation on Trinidade was operational as from March 1939. The first call was on the way down to Antartica. This was pre-war and the Brazilians were aware of it. My source has published photos of the item.

Sources for all of the above PLS.

It is not relevant whether there was a formal German claim.

Why not? Is that just an opion or do you have some fact and logic to back it up?

The important thing was the sector the Germans were particularly interested in.

Why is it important?

[uhu]

In P. W. Stahl's book, KG 200, he describes how he was given an alert in late April of 1945 to prepare two BV 222 Flying boats to take "Important Personell" to Greenland. Nothing ever became of it.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi LWD,

You are right to ask for sources, as I have, especially as some of Ohdruf's claims contradict my information.

For your interest, the Germans were just founding a whaling industry and this was their commercial interest in the region.

[Roadkiller]

... I can't see that aerial "on the gangplank between U-977 and the quay" ...

U-977.JPG

FWIW I can't see it either. Also, there are some pics and a report authored by the Commanding Officer of U-977 in the U-boat archive that don't show or talk of anything untoward: http://www.uboatarchive.net/U-977.htm

[JTG]

Why did you post your last?

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi JTG,

One might ask the same question of you!

If you follow back through Roadkiller's reference to Ironmachine, you will see that the latter was replying to an earlier claim on this thread by Atrevida/Ohdruf.

Roadkiller is providing supporting evidence for Ironmachine's position against that of Atrevida/Ohdruf.

Cheers,

Sid.

[Oscarruben]

It is likely that the German base in Antarctica is just a myth to divert attention from a fate that none other than Patagonia. Patagonia extends from Bahia Blanca Argentina to Tierra del Fuego and South Atlantic Islands. Captains and Schaffer would VERMOUTH outside the strategic plans of Germany so his fate would be a place on the Patagonian coast but for them it was Antarctica. It is impossible to ask for reliable sources and that all trips to Patagonia Argentina Kriegsmarine were secret.

[redcoat]

The mysterious aerial seen in the photograph of U-977 may be significant here.

It may be, so I have to repeat that I can't see that aerial "on the gangplank between U-977 and the quay". Again, would you be so kind as to mark it in the picture?

U-977.JPG

The only thing on the gangplank I can see are the safety rails.

[Ironmachine]

The only thing on the gangplank I can see are the safety rails.

That's exactly my problem.

[Sid Guttridge]

Hi Oscarruben

You say "it is impossible to ask for reliable sources....."

Nonsense.

It only seems impossible for anyone advocating the Antractic base and/or Patagonia stories to supply reliable sources.

The unreliable sources fall into two categories:

1) Those that are demonstrably wrong. Several of these have been exposed on this and related threads.

2) Those that are completely unverifiable. These have absolutely no evidential value whatsoever.

Given the current state of evidence offered in their support, the Patagonia and Antarctic base propositions are still completely indistinguishable from fiction.

Cheers,

Sid.

[waldzee]

Other than scouting missions, Germanie's pre war iterest inthe Antarctic was pretty simple: to obtain whales, sea fish, & krill.
whale oil (s) esp sperm whale casket oils had certain properties that made it ideal for machine lubrication - now replaced by synthetics, but very usefull in the 1930's.

Germany was in need of 'crude protein ' to be stored against the war effort, & crude fats. The Antarctic in the 1930's was wide open territory.

[waldzee]

The mysterious aerial seen in the photograph of U-977 may be significant here.

It may be, so I have to repeat that I can't see that aerial "on the gangplank between U-977 and the quay". Again, would you be so kind as to mark it in the picture?

U-977.JPG

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It has been disguised by the laundry drying on it...

[Ironmachine]

It has been disguised by the laundry drying on it...

Nazi dual-use technology at its best.

[waldzee]

It has been disguised by the laundry drying on it...

Nazi dual-use technology at its best.

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Good point
I assumed http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Whale_oil or http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oleochemical

However, it appears that the Whales may have been 'U boat Axillary fleet units recruits' as well as prey.
dual use dual use...