Auxiliary ships

[Hautpoul]

Looking for informations about german auxiliary ships based in Kristiansand, I notice some attributes I do not understand :

NK21 Odin
2cm Flak
2 LMG= light machine gun?
M.P.G= ?
Minensuchgerat= mines detector?

Thanks for your help.
Regards,

Hautpoul

[fredleander]

Looking for informations about german auxiliary ships based in Kristiansand, I notice some attributes I do not understand :

NK21 Odin
2cm Flak
2 LMG= light machine gun?
M.P.G= ?
Minensuchgerat= mines detector?

Thanks for your help.
Regards,

Hautpoul

Odin: There was a Norwegian light destroyer in Kristiansand: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/KNM_%C2%ABOdin%C2%BB
2 cm. Flak: 20 mm anti-aircraft machine cannon - Flak= FliegerAbwehrKanone
M.P.G: No idea. G: Gerät= equipment, apparatus - could be depth charge launcher, too
MInensuchgerät: Minesweeping equipment

Fred

[Schorschl]

Hello Hautpoul, Hi Fred,

first the meaning of the abbreviation M.P.G. = Motorpinaß-Gerät (source: Deutsche Minenräumdienstvorschrift, Nr. 11: Atlas der Minenräumgeräte, Teil II: Mechanische Räumgeräte)



Second a small correction. The translation of Minensuchgerät means minesearching equipment. This is used to determine the location of naval mines. The removal of the found mines is made then by one of different types of minesweeping gear (German: Minenräumgerät)

With kind regards,
Schorschl

[Hautpoul]

Hi Fred & Schorschl

Thanks for you answers.
But Schorschl, can you specify what is exactly Motorpinaß-Gerät? I don't understand your scheme.

Regards,

Hautpoul

[Schorschl]

Hello Hautpoul,

the M.P.G. is the whole arrangement of ropes, otter boards, signal buoys, shackles and so on, which was towed by several (up to six) smaller vessels. It is not just a single device, but consists of several individual parts that had to be present on board at the minesearchers/-sweepers to build up a M.P.G..
The exact translation of the German nautical terms is somewhat difficult, because the English equivalents unfortunately are not known to me for certain.

With kind regards,
Schorschl

[fredleander]

Hello Hautpoul,

the M.P.G. is the whole arrangement of ropes, otter boards, signal buoys, shackles and so on, which was towed by several (up to six) smaller vessels. It is not just a single device, but consists of several individual parts that had to be present on board at the minesearchers/-sweepers to build up a M.P.G..
The exact translation of the German nautical terms is somewhat difficult, because the English equivalents unfortunately are not known to me for certain.

With kind regards,
Schorschl

Excellent information, Schorshl - thank you! Maybe a little addition to you Hautpoul, Pinasse is a small auxilliary boat (motor launch) carried on naval vessels for various purposes. If you look at a picture of the Type 35 German minesweeper you will note the large double-crane midships. This was to launch the "Pinasse". Just in case you didn't know......As I understand Schorshl the (motor) Pinasse then operated as a mini-minesweeper as part of a total system.

Fred

[Polar bear]

hi, Hautpoul and Fred

Looking for informations about german auxiliary ships based in Kristiansand, I notice some attributes I do not understand :

NK21 Odin

Odin: There was a Norwegian light destroyer in Kristiansand: http://no.wikipedia.org/wiki/KNM_%C2%ABOdin%C2%BB

the norwegian torpedo boat/destroyer ODIN became the PANTHER in the German navy, see http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sleipner_class_destroyer

NK 21 is a smaller boat, belonging to the harbour protection squadron of Kristiansand (the letters NK stand for Norway/Kristiansand), and was given the "additional" name ODIN by the Germans.

greetings, the pb

[Schorschl]

Hello Fred,

(...)
...As I understand Schorschl the (motor) Pinasse then operated as a mini-minesweeper as part of a total system.

The use of the M.P.G. was intended for small vessels such as K.F.K.s (= Kriegsfischkutter), motor launches (= Motorpinassen), motor launches especially for transport of passengers in harbors (= Motorbarkassen) and similar small vehicles, which are suitable to hold a permanent speed of 6 to 7 knots or more at least. These boats had to be fitted with a simple winch to handle the M.P.G. The burden of each towing boat by pulling the M.P.G. was 0.5 to 1 t.
So not only the utility boats of the M-35 minesweepers could be employed, but also in fact every of the service boats in the harbor or vessels of the harbor protection squadron and so on.

With kind regards,
Schorschl

[Hautpoul]

Thanks a lot for all those clarifications.

I did not know that NK21 Odin has depth charge throwers.
Somebody knows if NK23 Donar and NK 25 Frija have also depth charge throwers?

The webside below does not indicate such equipment for NK 23/NK 25 but it was wrong for NK21...
http://www.luftwaffe.no/kriegsmarine/articles/Table.htm

Regards,

Hautpoul

[Felix C]

M.P.G. = Paravanes?

[igorr]

MPG = sweep for M/S cutters