Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 14 Jan 2012, 20:19

Hello Jos,
Thank you for your posts and especially for the last post.
The drawing complete very well the post with first pictures from M.Fl. at IJmuiden and last one from Vlissingen .
You can easy examine in pictures with "32 familly" , the pictures with "lafette"'s , and see that the frames
with cylindricall dampfers are fixed on the lafette skeleton with screws at 30º on the left and and on the right.
This is the upper dump system which sustain the weight of the shield and "eat" the shield vibration .
This are very well ilustrated in your pictures.
All system (shield+lafette+barrel+accesories+horizonthal system of rotation)
are fixed on a steel-structure that "stay" on the dampers from your drawing.
This complex-structure (the base system) sustain all the weight of S.K. C/32 system.
This complex damping system must function with great precision, precision that are translated in firing accuracy
of the gun.
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 14 Jan 2012, 20:29

jopaerya wrote: P.S. the 10.5 cm S.K.C/32U is a strange one in the /32 family
Why ?

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 14 Jan 2012, 23:13

The breech block is complety different .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 15 Jan 2012, 17:48

It's normal .
This kinds of gun stay all the time in salt water, and must be very strong.
The breech block is made from a single piece of steel .
The gun is very good, very easy to manipulate , easy to teach about them
( by sailors ), and of course very reliable .
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 16 Jan 2012, 20:57

jopaerya wrote:Hello Vladalex

The frame above the 10.5 cm S.K.C/32 gun is to bolted it to the "Deckenschutz"
( steel cover ) to protect the personel of the M.Fl.B. from scrapnel .Photo's Ebay

Regards Jos
With your say-so I post another "picture".

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 17 Jan 2012, 16:50

Hello Vladalex

Here a drawing from Erik E. from the back hanging system and the damper .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 17 Jan 2012, 17:48

Hello Jos,
Thank you very much , it's a great drawing wich "describe" antivibration system designed by engineers by the mid of
years' 30, for use on naval anti-AA gun . Of course this system was very good for the guns mounted in coastal battery,
because the ground don't move.
But because the ship move in all direction of the 3 axis instant , the german engineers designed an stabilization system based on electrical gyroscope and applied to 10,5 cm S.K. C/33 on different Doppel Marine Lafette's , and called SL- systems .
Thank you again , and a question that can be a joke for you :

Is anythink about guns or ships from WWI-WWII that you don't have a picture or a drawing about ?

Thank you again .
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 17 Jan 2012, 18:11

Hi Vladalex

I am still missing a lot of information , but every day I collect some.

Regards Jos

P.S. nice Ebay picture of the 10.5 cm S.K.C/33 or 8.8 cm on a testing site
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 17 Jan 2012, 20:03

Hi Jos,
It is a 10,5cm S.K. C/33 on 8,8 cm Dopp.L.C31 g.E.
By the way, because " I am still missing a lot of information " I try to put it a little one, but first a question :
Do you know what use is for this device ?

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 17 Jan 2012, 21:52

Hi again

Also something I don't know , but looks like a horn .

Photo = Prinz Eugen.com

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 17 Jan 2012, 22:20

Hi ,
You are right .
Is a very powerfull horn .
After the sailor set parameter on fuse setter disc's (2 ) and push the electrical button ,
an electric motor start and rotate head of the fuse .
When the fuse was set by the ZM-37 machine , the horn "give " an acoustical signal of
wich acoustic level is higher then 120dB, and the sailor know , that now he must dismount
the shell from fuse-setter and put in the breech.
Basically this horn " must be over " the loudness of the fighting action.
Now ... another horn from my pictures - The acoustical signal emitted by the horn from
10,5cm S.K.C/32 protection shield (placed near the upper dampers) indicated that the
vibration level of the shield is so small , that means you can fire the gun .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Jan 2012, 14:10

Do you have picture of the horn that was placed inside the "Deckeschutzschild" ??

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 18 Jan 2012, 16:36

Hello Jos,
Do you seen my old pictures posted from Sinsheim Museum ?
Let's see now ...
One horn from your picture (from ZM-37), and another horn from my picture.
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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by jopaerya » 18 Jan 2012, 20:07

Oke, I thought it was a wartime picture that you had .

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Re: Id. help on 10,5 cm S.K.C/32

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Post by vladalex » 23 Jan 2012, 22:22

Hello for everybody,
Who can help me to identify this VW ?

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