Raeder feud with Dönitz

[Kameraden]

On Raeder's wikipedia page (not a relible info page i know.) it states he had a feud with Dönitz in prison and even after when he was writing his memoirs he wanted to carry on the feud. Obviously Doenitz replaced him as Großadmiral in 43 and thats going to grate, but does anyone have details of the feud if there was one?

[Kameraden]

Dieter i am in the UK and don't have that symbol on my keyboard. Hence Doenitz.

[Marcus]

That is understandable but we try to correct the names so the searching works as intended, both in the forum and through Google.

The special characters available by clicking on the omega-button above the field were you enter your text might be useful for you.

/Marcus

[Haratio Fales]

I think that the feud that You might be referring to had something to do with Adm. Döughnuts stealing some pastries from Adm. Raeder's plate while he was distracted (LOL). just kidding, Pun intended. Thank you for being a good moderator and bringing up interesting posts to ponder and discuss things on. Smooth Sailing. Haratio.

[steverodgers801]

In any military you are going to have feuds because successful people have egos and everyone thinks they are right. The German army had numerous feuds, Guderian and von Kluge is the most famous. The feud was also a product of Hitlers system in which he wanted people fighting each other so they would not oppose Hitler.

[Ironmachine]

On Raeder's wikipedia page (not a relible info page i know.) it states he had a feud with Dönitz in prison and even after when he was writing his memoirs he wanted to carry on the feud. Obviously Dönitz replaced him as Großadmiral in 43 and thats going to grate, but does anyone have details of the feud if there was one?

Well, for what's worth, and as the source is Wikipedia, it should be noted than wikipedia's page on Spandau Prison states this: "Despite preferring to stay together, the two of them [Dönitz and Raeder] continued their wartime feud and argued most of the time over whether Raeder's Battleships or Dönitz's U-boats were responsible for "losing" the war."
Now, for a more reliable source, what follows is taken from Erich Raeder: Admiral of the Third Reich by Keith Bird:

Although Raeder described the "strong bond" that developed between him and Dönitz in prison, Speer recounts a quite different story that is more consistent with Donitz's latter comments. Dönitz still blamed Raeder for his "policy of bloated surface vessels" and the failure to build enough U-boats. For his part, noted Speer, Raeder treated Dönitz as an overly ambitious officer and treated him with the condescension of a superior officer. However, a little over a year later, when Dönitz completed his sentence and was released (1 October 1956), their supporters made sure that any differences were muted in the interests of the navy. As Raeder expressed it in his memoirs, "Our reunión in freedom was deeply moving for us both". Their public display of solidarity would continue throughtout the remainder of Raeder's life, as evidenced by the careful crafting of his memoirs praising his former U-boat commander and his request that his sucesor speak at his funeral. Their Bürgerfrieden, their "public truce," as Dönitz termed it, would be maintained in the interest of unity and the need to restore the honor of the navy.

[Kameraden]

Thanx for the replies.

[ijnfleetadmiral]

Japanese commanders also patched up their differences after the war. When VADM Ozawa Jisaburo was on his deathbed in 1966, his former Leyte Gulf subordinate, VADM Kurita Takeo came to see him and wept at his bedside. Ozawa was considered a maverick in the IJN (he'd outright refused a promotion to full Admiral right before the war) and was also singled out due to his height (a shocking 6' 7"!). Kurita was pretty much ostracized after Leyte Gulf, being assigned the dead-end job of Naval Academy Superintendent soon after returning to Japan in late November 1944. A lot of Japanese officers blamed him for the loss of the Battle of Leyte Gulf.

[genstab]

That's fascinating about Ozawa refusing a promotion. Any idea why? Maybe he didn't want the job that would have come with it? Imagine a Western general or admiral refusing a promotion.

[Ironmachine]

Imagine a Western general or admiral refusing a promotion.

Well, in Spain in 1926 the whole Artillery Branch of the Army was dissolved because the Artillery officers of the Spanish Army sistematically refused promotions by selection or by war merits, accepting only those promotions achieved by seniority.