many ships ID please

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 19:58

FS Meteor = looks very similar to REIHER or SCHWAN

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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 20:06

7.jpg = mine layer KAISER and FR 7


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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 20:10

24.jpg = mine layer ELSASS

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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 20:15

9.jpg = a Fl.B- and a Fl.F - type boat of the air force

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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 20:19

Grafenau.jpg = one of the N - type river tugs, possibly GRAFENAU

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Post by Peter K. » 23 Sep 2014, 20:25

124.jpg = looks like a transport, probably RO 1, SAT AUGUST and another vessel (AE is unknown to me)

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Post by igorr » 24 Sep 2014, 04:18

Peter K. wrote:fuchs.jpg = tender HAY
Why not FUCHS (1905) broken in 1929?

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Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 24 Sep 2014, 14:21

124.jpg=Ships of the 27.Landungsflottille: Ro 1 is leader of the whole flottille, AE is Anna Elisabeth, leader of the 4.group, A is Armin, leader of the 3.group. Is the picture taken in Mussalo, Kotka Finland?

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Post by Peter K. » 24 Sep 2014, 19:11

@ IGORR
Of course, you are right! The old FUCHS was a half sister of HAY and would be a better identification (searchlight, bulleyes, ...)

@ RUOTSINSALMI
Thanks for your correction!

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Post by Polar bear » 24 Sep 2014, 22:45

hi

6.jpg - auxiliary minesweepers

22.jpg looks a lot like Trondheim fjord in the summer of 1940, the left red-circled ship is a torpedo boat type 1935

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Post by igorr » 25 Sep 2014, 03:54

Peter K. wrote:Grafenau.jpg = one of the N - type river tugs, possibly GRAFENAU
Man who posted photo on Tsushima.su say she was GRAFENAU itself.

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Post by igorr » 25 Sep 2014, 04:06

Senator Brunnemann - ex passanger ship, used as verkehrfahrzeug for BISMARCK. So ship seen behind is B. Senator Brunnemann returned to owner 2.5.41 and sunk 07.43.

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by bertamingo » 26 Sep 2014, 19:48

To Peter K.:
Thank you very much for your kind help!!! Many of the ships were rarely known, it is amazing that you recognized so many!!!

I was wondering if you could help me a bit more with the following ships:)

Reiher: I roughly translated the name of the organization it belonged to as East Sea Guard Forces. Furthermore, I saw there's a ship named Reiher in Feldgrau.com which is listed as a tender, was she the same ship as we discussed here? That means, she was the flagship of some guard forces, and was officially designated as a fleet tender?

MRS4 Paris as a transport ship: AFAIK common transport ships usually didn't carry so many small boats on their decks, it looked really like an MRS ship than a common transport?

FR7: I have seen other photos of the FR boats, but they looked very different from the ones on this photo. Noteably, the other FR boat photos showing a big chimney and no driver cabin. Or maybe these were actually the KR boats, while this one was the real HR boat?

PS: regarding TA17, Sorry I know neither of the owner or his collection/book, I found the photo by google search,from website http://astypalaia.wordpress.com/2009/page/22/
If it violates any copyrights then may I ask the webmaster to help me delete it? I can't edit any more by myself...

To Ruotsinsalmi:
Thank you for your information. Do you know what kind of ships were the Anna Elisabeth and Armin? Were they military transports like the RO1, or other auxiliaries? Unfortunately I saved the photo a while ago and can not recall where it was taken.

To igorr and Polar Bear:
Thanks a lot for your great help!!!

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by Ruotsinsalmi » 26 Sep 2014, 21:06

Sorry, don't know nothing more. According the photo they are small coastal freighters, also following link confirms that (mentioned as Kümos). Btw, some other boats from the Kümo-Gruppe are mentioned in finnish war diares.
http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/ks ... ln/evo.htm

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by igorr » 28 Sep 2014, 08:21

Anna Elisabeth - lenght 33 m, br. 6,52 m, dr. 2,6 m. Speed 7 kn. 1 MG 13-mm, crane 1,6 ts.
Armin - 38 x 6,12 x 1,7 m, 7 kn, 1 MG 13-mm, crane for 1,4 ts.
Both was some kind of provisional landing ships for caostal operations.

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