many ships ID please

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by bertamingo » 28 Sep 2014, 11:32

Ruotsinsalmi & Igorr:
Again thank you very much for the information! I would be very interested to see any of the two ships' photos, in KM service or as civilian ships. Never heard of such coasters in the landing flotillas before, maybe they were among the initial bunch of ships mobilised for Operation Sealion and were kept later for invasion of Russia.

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by igorr » 28 Sep 2014, 13:03

Both was mobilized and served in Erprobungverband Ostsee, unit made for evolving of landing operations. They served in intended role by capture of Moonsund. Then both served as tenders and convertional transport ships in 24 L-flot.


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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by bertamingo » 28 Sep 2014, 13:05

Thanks!!! Three more pictures to ID, pics from http://hellenopolonica.blogspot.com/201 ... ia-ze.html
and http://alifrafikkhan.blogspot.com/2012/ ... arine.html

First is about TAs, but dunno which ones they were...
Second, looks like the UJ2105?
Third, I guess its the diver training boat/taucherschulboot Taucher?

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by Polar bear » 28 Sep 2014, 16:46

hi,

pic 1
in the center IMO : TA 14 ex TURBINE (bridge form, 12 cm twin forward)
on the right ... not quite that clear, but possibly TA 15 ex Francesco Crispi (oblique funnel top)

pic 2
UJ 2105 - I agree

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by Peter K. » 28 Sep 2014, 19:27

Concerning PARIS you are right! The pic shows the ship as a MRS, but early in its career as such, because of all 4 masts still available.
Take a look here: http://www.wrecksite.eu/img/wrecks/paris_1922.jpg

pic 3 = KAMERUM

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by bertamingo » 29 Sep 2014, 02:51

To Polar Bear:
Thank you very much!!! The second TA seemed to be the TA15, judging by the shape of the bridge and funnel!

To Peter K.:
Thank you again very much!!! The Kameroon looks right, though previously I thought it was a torpedo recovery vessel, didn't know it also served the divers. For the MRS4, yeah it must be the early Paris! Regarding these MRS ships, were there any real difference between MRS3/4, 11/12, 25/26, maybe they looked the same in each pair?

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by igorr » 29 Sep 2014, 04:08

I never see if PARIS and BALI was designated MRS.3 and MRS.4. They always present only as MRS PARIS and MRS BALI.
MRS.25 and 26 was almost same, but others IMHO differed from each other.

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by bertamingo » 30 Sep 2014, 02:43

Thanks a lot for your kind help :lol:

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by kgvm » 06 Oct 2014, 21:52

The ship identified as subchaser is in fact "V 1604", the former French trawler "Casoar", showing the triangeled sign of the 16. Vorpostenflottille.

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Re: many ships ID please

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Post by kgvm » 06 Oct 2014, 22:10

Unknown river vessel #3 is very probably one of the Danube-vessels "Adelheid" (ex Dutch) or "Junak" (ex Yugoslavian) after they were rebuilt for service on the Black Sea.
A sister of "Junak", the "Uskok" (ex Yugoslavian, too), was also rebuilt, but the side elevation in Gröner, Die deutschen Kriegsschiffe 1815-1945, part 8/1, shows some slightly different details (type of crane, mast at bridge).

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