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The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Galahad on 14 Apr 2012 01:48

--My mind is almost a blank, naval-wise, so I'm afraid this one is going to be pretty easy. What is the largest ship ever sunk by a German submarine?

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 16 Apr 2012 10:08

Galahad wrote:--My mind is almost a blank, naval-wise, so I'm afraid this one is going to be pretty easy. What is the largest ship ever sunk by a German submarine?


RMS Empress of Britain She was torpedoed on 28 October 1940 by U-32 and sank. Bevor an excellent job made Oberleutnant Bernhard Jope*. At around 9:20am on 26 October 1940, travelling about 70 miles northwest of Ireland along the west coast, the Empress of Britain was spotted by a German Focke-Wulf C 200 Condor long-range bomber, commanded by Oberleutnant Bernhard Jope. Jope’s bomber strafed the Empress three times and hit her twice with 250 kg bombs. At 42,348 gross tons, she was the largest liner lost during the Second World War and the largest ship sunk by a U-boat.. A perfect cooperation between Luftwaffe and UBootwaffe, it is pity that was the first of two such operations (stupid Marschall "Meyer") . The 2nd was "Cerberus". PQ 17?



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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 16 Apr 2012 10:31

hi, Mischa and galahad,

the largest victim of submarine warfare (although not sunk directly by torpedo or gun) was the hospital ship (and former liner) BRITANNIC (a sister ship of the TITANIC) of 48,758 grt, lost on November 21, 1916, in the Aegean on a mine laid by U 73, see http://www.uboat.net/wwi/ships_hit/6696.html

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Galahad on 16 Apr 2012 23:35

--First, the answer I was looking for was the largest ship directly sunk by a German U-boat. I apologize if I was unclear.

--So Mischa's answer is indeed correct--it was the Empress of Britain. Congradulations!

--However there are a couple of wee corrections to both his answer and PB's comment.

--First, the largest liner lost during the war wasn't the Empress of Britain; she was only the 4th largest lost, and only the third largest lost to direct enemy action. Unless, of course, sabotage was involved in the loss of the largest.....the liner Normandie (83,423 gross tons), which was in the process of being converted into a troopship when she caught fire and capsized at her mooring in New York.

--Barring the Normandie caveat, the largest and second largest liners lost to enemy action during WW II were the Italian liners Rex (51,062 gross tons) and Conte di Savoia (48,502 gross tons). The Rex was sunk by British fighter bombers at Trieste in 1944, and the Conte di Savoia was sunk by air attack at Malamocco, east of Venice, in 1943.

--And last, but definitely not least, the largest ship ever sunk by a submarine, either directly or indirectly, wasn't the Britannic. Rather, it was the Japanese carrier IJNS Shinano (62,000 long tons), which was torpedoed and sunk by the rather appropriately named United States submarine USS Archerfish, on 29 November 1944.

--And now it's Mischa's turn! Again, congradulations!

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 17 Apr 2012 09:58

Galahad wrote:--First, the answer I was looking for was the largest ship directly sunk by a German U-boat. I apologize if I was unclear.


no, for me it was clear. We are looking for ships of the WW 2, and we still talk about Kriegsmarine 1935 - 1945, not of the other countries in the WW 2 and the Imperial German Navy.. The war 1914 - 1918 is on another place

Galahad wrote: And now it's Mischa's turn! Again, congradulations!


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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 17 Apr 2012 13:04

hi, Mischa,

Light cruiser KÖNIGSBERG

btw, you are right about my answer being inappropriate as this thread is labeled KRIEGSMARINE :milwink:

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 18 Apr 2012 06:29

Polar bear wrote:hi, Mischa, Light cruiser KÖNIGSBERG btw, you are right about my answer being inappropriate as this thread is labeled KRIEGSMARINE :milwink: greetings, the pb


Yes pb, You turn :milwink:

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 18 Apr 2012 08:38

hi,

well, let´s stay in this realm ... :milwink:

another ... what ship ? :wink:

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 18 Apr 2012 15:11

Hello,
what a lovely picture!

10. April 1940 - Skua - bombers - + light cruiser Königsberg . The wreck was on 17 lifted in July 1942, raised and then used as a pier for U-boats. On 22 September 1944, the capsized King mountain a second time it was scrapped after the war in Bergen.

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 19 Apr 2012 17:43

hello, Mischa,

correct, of course.

all yours again !

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 20 Apr 2012 09:53

Polar bear wrote:hello, Mischa, correct, of course. all yours again ! greetings, the pb

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 21 Apr 2012 14:21

Hello,
here are two hints. The second Photo shows that there has been large scale after the sinking and rescue analgesia in the main character is en face.
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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 22 Apr 2012 13:41

hi, Mischa,

it is/was the submarine supply ship PYTHON, with the crew of ATLANTIS aboard, sunk by DORSETSHIRE in the South Atlantic on December 1, 1941. The crews, 414 men in all, are first towed by submarines, then taken aboard, get all home.

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Mischa on 23 Apr 2012 07:29

Polar bear wrote:hi, Mischa, it is/was the submarine supply ship PYTHON, with the crew of ATLANTIS aboard, sunk by DORSETSHIRE in the South Atlantic on December 1, 1941. The crews, 414 men in all, are first towed by submarines, then taken aboard, get all home. greetings, the pb

EXCELLENT! :lol: You turn :milwink:

something more about this: 8 Atlatntis - sailors +; 305 survived the fire. Bailout by the German U-boats U A, U 68, U 124, U 129 and U-boats, the Italian Tazzoli E., G. Finzi, P. Calvi and L. Torelli be brought to France. Up to eleven men all reached the end of December home

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Re: The official AHF Kriegsmarine quiz thread

Postby Polar bear on 24 Apr 2012 07:36

hi, Mischa,

let´s stay somewhere in this area ...

what ship ?

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