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Which human torpedo?

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Which human torpedo?

Postby Imad on 16 Feb 2006 18:10

Hello
There seems to be some confusion about whether the human torpedoes used by the Kriegsmarine's K flotilla in Normandy were Negers or Martens. Does anyone have any authoritative information on this?
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Postby Doktor Krollspell on 16 Feb 2006 22:52

Hello Imad!

The K-Flottille 361 was ordered to move to the Normandy coast on June 13, 1944. This unit was equipped with 60 "Neger" one-man torpedoes. On the night between July 5 and 6, the Neger sailors went into action. The target was the Trout line that protected the allied floating harbours. The actoin was very succesful as several allied ships went down. Walter Gerhold hit and sank the british frigate HMS Trollope and for this action did Gerhold recieve the Knight's Cross.

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Der Führer verlieh dem Schreiberobergefreiter , Walther Gerhold aus dem Sauerland das Ritterkreuz. Gerhold versenkte mit seinem Einmanntorpedo einen Kreuzer der Aurora-Klasse aus der Invasionsflotte vor den Ornemündung. Juli 1944.

Source pic/qoute: http://presentations.uib.no:7778/pls/po ... lues=12079


The two british mine clearing(?) (Minensuchboote) ships HMS Magic and HMS Cato were also sunk that night. The seventeen year old Neger sailor Matrose Horst Berger was involved in the sinking of one of those and for this recieved the German Cross in Gold. At the age of just seventeen, I suppose Berger has had to be one of the absolutely youngest recipients of this award.

Source (and a good read) for this information is "Das Kommando der Kleinkampfverbände der Kriegsmarine" by Helmut Blocksdorf (2003).


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Postby Duncan on 17 Feb 2006 00:25

Hi
The book: "Underwater Warriors" by Paul Kemp 1996 (Arms and Armour), has a good couple of chapters on the Normandy flotillas, and provides details of various events, sinkings, and dispositions of the flotillas. It also covers other axis and allied midget submarines - history, development etc.
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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby AlifRafikKhan on 11 Jul 2009 12:09

Walther Gerhold German naval seaman (single-pilot craft torpedo) receives Ritterkreuz from the hands of Admiral Hellmuth Heye...

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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby AlifRafikKhan on 11 Jul 2009 12:13

And this is Gerhold as human torpedo!

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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby Imad on 12 Jul 2009 05:13

Interesting pics there Ali. Thanks for that. Upload some more if you have them.

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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby AlifRafikKhan on 12 Jul 2009 13:26

No problem! :)

German Human Torpedo [”Neger")...

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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby AlifRafikKhan on 12 Jul 2009 13:31

Another picture of Walther Gerhold as human torpedo...

Source : http://www.ritterkreuztraeger-1939-45.d ... alther.htm
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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby AlifRafikKhan on 12 Jul 2009 13:37

And here is the video from YouTube about the German human torpedo 'Negers'...





And if you want to download the video :

http://www.downloadyoutubevideos.com/wa ... Video.y=28

Hope this will cheers you up! :)

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Re: Which human torpedo?

Postby Natter on 01 Sep 2012 16:25

AlifRafikKhan wrote:Another picture of Walther Gerhold as human torpedo...
And one more recent (from "Das Kommando der Kleinkampfverbände der Kriegsmarine - Die "Sturmwikinger"" (Helmut Blocksdorf, 2003. ISBN 3-613-02339-X))
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