German seaplane tenders. Do anything?

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Post by varjag » 31 Mar 2006, 14:32

Simon Orchard wrote:Not u-boat assistance as such but long range recconaissance work for U-boats. On several occasions a Bv138 was dispatched to work with a U-boat for days or weeks at a time and refueled from the U-boat. Something the 138 could do as it used diesel. That site gives a good account of where and how they were used.
Could you elaborate on this? - 'days or weeks' - at sea? Even with optimally clement conditions - the refuelling of a
Bv 138 from a U-boat at sea - must have been a VERY RISKY operation. I'm not saying it didn't happen - but HOW OFTEN
and between which U-boats/Bv 138's - where and when? Rgds, Varjag

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Post by stril » 05 Apr 2006, 17:51

Hello
A link to some photos.
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http://www.wlb-stuttgart.de/seekrieg/43 ... rland2.htm


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Post by varjag » 07 Apr 2006, 06:09

Nice pictures stril - thanks for them. What happened to the Bv 138, did it bump to hard into
the submarine? Do you know WHERE they were taken? Looks like a glacier in the background -
which spells Greenland/Svalbard or something of the sort......rgds, Varjag


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Post by varjag » 07 Apr 2006, 11:49

Thanks Simon Orchard for the links. Very interesting stuff. I draw the conclusion that the pictures show a
refuelling meeting between U 255 and the Bv 138 on the coast of Novaya Zemlya in
August 1943. As you yourself must have noted - the German site makes reference
to the loss of a Bv 138 - shown 'ducking' in the picture, through a collision - doubtless with the U-boat.
Aeroplanes are very fragile things - in contact with ships :roll: even so - the weather appears to have
been almost calm in the pictures. Rgds, Varjag

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 May 2014, 04:43

This is an old thread and some of the image links are broken so I am posting these image of the catapult ships Bussard, Falke, Sperber and the converted merchant ship Friesenland in the event they weren't posted before. I am asking if anyone has any additional pics of these ships or the other converted merchants with catapult capability (Westfalen and Ostmark ) other than those shown on the following link : http://www.luftarchiv.de/index.htm?/bordgerate/kata.htm which is the source of these images.
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 May 2014, 13:53

A few more if there are any seaplane buffs out there (same source):
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Die Dornier Do 26 V5 auf dem Schleuderschiff 'Friesenland'.jpg
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Post by Felix C » 27 May 2014, 19:11

Older thread here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... x#p1683058

Two seaplane tenders- Max Stinksy and Richtoffen escaped to Spain. Operated by the Luftwaffe.

More ships here: http://www.navypedia.org/ships/germany/ger_carriers.htm

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Post by Maxschnauzer » 27 May 2014, 23:46

Thank you for the info and link, Felix.
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Post by Maxschnauzer » 28 May 2014, 01:46

The BV 139 being deployed from Katapultshiffe: (Source http://www.wwiiaircraftphotos.com/luftw ... bv1391.htm)
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Post by Felix C » 28 May 2014, 20:52

My pleasure and your pics are quite educating.
Thanks.

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Post by Edward L. Hsiao » 15 Jun 2019, 09:20

The seaplane carriers of the Kriegsmarine were the closest of being an operational German aircraft carriers.

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Post by Old_Fossil » 08 Aug 2019, 03:22

Seeing these pictures of seaplanes being launched from trolleys (using compressed air?) makes me wonder if that is why the Kriegsmarine decided to use the same system for launching planes from the Graf Zeppelin. They must have known no other navy was doing this, but this was something they were familiar with and were sure they could make work because of their past successes with larger seaplanes. Any confirmation of this surmise?
"If things were different, they wouldn't be the same."

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