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Kudo Shunsaku and the Destroyer Ikazuchi

Postby Peter H on 20 May 2007 08:06

http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1772

Japanese TV and Oniazuma present the story of Imperial Japanese Navy Captain Kudo Shunsaku, who risked the safety of his destroyer and its crew to save 442 British sailors in the midst of battle during World War II. Later in the war, the destroyer was sunk, sending most of the Japanese crew who had taken part in the rescue operation to their graves. Captain Shunsaku, who had earlier been transferred to another command, lived until 1975, but never told anyone about the event. It was only though one former British sailor, who had come to Japan to find and thank Captain Shunsaku, that the Japanese people were able to find out about the honorable actions of Kudo Shunsaku and his crew


What battle was this?Java Sea?

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Postby Takao on 20 May 2007 09:01

You are correct, the survivors were from HMS Encounter.

Here is a Japanese program telling the story thru recreation of the events. Interesting, if you overlook all the inaccuracy.
http://www.japanprobe.com/?p=1772
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Postby hisashi on 20 May 2007 11:20

Recently a book was published on this destroyer. Ikazuchi rescued 376 men in Feb 28, 1942 from HMS Exetor and perhaps in next day 422 men from HMS Encounter A survivor of Encounter (perhaps, judging from the description that he published a memoir 'My Lucky Life' and katakana name 'fohru') Sam Falle became a diplomat, and in 2003 he asked a japanese to find the skipper Kudo's family and he found them, though Kudo was dead.
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Postby Peter H on 20 May 2007 11:36

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Postby cstunts on 20 May 2007 18:00

Hello,

There seems to be some confusion here, although perhaps I am the confused one--It wouldn't be the first time--between the destroyers IKAZUCHI (Lt CDR Kudo Shunsaku) and INAZUMA (Lt Cdr Takeuchi Hajime). The combinedfleet.com website's Long Lancers (IJN destroyers) page states that INAZUMA picked up 376 survivors of EXETER on 1 March, and returned to the scene on 3 March to rescue the 151 survivors of USS POPE (DD-225)--If this is correct, then the remaining 520 (approx.) Allied survivors would have been picked up by another vessel, which appears to have been IKAZUCHI. Is this reasonable to assume?
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Postby hisashi on 21 May 2007 03:20

In Japanese Ikazuchi is 雷 and Inazuma is 電, very confusing. Moreover, damaged Exetor, escorted by Encounter and Pope, was attacked by a group of Japanese destroyers including both Inazuma and Ikazuchi. I am sorry that I have no authoritative data.

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I found the book in question and it was me that is confusing. Thank you very much for your correction. The author of the book on this topic, Megumi Ryunosuke is a retired lieutenant (junior grade) of maritime SDF. He made interviews to the crew of Ikazuchi and Inazuma, and also Exetor. His book is very persuasive.

http://www.soshisha.com/book_search/det ... 14995.html

According to Japanese record, in March 1, Exetor sank at 12:50. Japanese force left Inazuma for the rescue of survivors and the rest chased two destroyers.
Encounter sank at 13:30 but for the day Japanese forces deserted her. Pope barely escaped but soon aircraft found her and bombed. Japanese destroyers caught her up and sank her by gunfire nearly 16:00.
Next day morning, Ikazuchi found the survivors of Encounter by chance. They were covered in heavy oil and weakened in twenty hours' drifting.. Kudo ordered to save them. The board was occupied by sailors, and all hardpoints became unable to use. His HQ was not pleased to hear it, but anyway Ikazuchi saved 422 men dispersed in large area. Megumi do not explain why, but in 422 men the skipper of Exetor and some crews were included. Perhaps they moved to Encounter just after Exetor was sunk.
It was Ikazuchi that found the survivors of Pope first, but the crews refused to board Ikazuchi and requested to tug their boat. Kudo refused it worrying about allied submarine and let them alone. After that encounter Inazuma again found them, and exhausted crews boarded Inazuma this time.
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Re: Kudo Shunsaku and the Destroyer Ikazuchi

Postby 2210ethan on 25 Jun 2012 19:02

Also worthy of inclusion is the fact that of the 123 survivors from HMS Encounter, only 52 survived Japanese captivity. Western allied pows had a far better chance of survival if they were taken by the Germans...
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Re: Kudo Shunsaku and the Destroyer Ikazuchi

Postby ijnfleetadmiral on 25 Jun 2012 23:26

Kudo Shunsaku
Eta Jima Class 51 (class ranking unknown)
Promoted Midshipman - 14 July 1923
Promoted Ensign - 1 December 1924
Promoted Lieutenant (j.g.) - 1 December 1926
Promoted Lieutenant - 10 December 1928
Promoted Lieutenant Commander - 15 November 1935
Commanding Officer, Tachikaze - 5 March 1938 - 1 December 1938
Commanding Officer, Ikazuchi - 1 November 1940 - 13 August 1942
Promoted Commander - 15 October 1941
Commanding Officer, Hibiki - 13 August 1942 - 10 December 1942
Promoted Captain - 15 October 1944
Died - 12 January 1979

Her other wartime COs:

Ishii Hagumu
Eta Jima Class 52 (class ranking unknown)
Promoted Midshipman - 24 July 1924
Promoted Ensign - 1 December 1925
Promoted Lieutenant (j.g.) - 1 December 1927
Promoted Lieutenant - 1 December 1930
Promoted Lieutenant Commander - 1 December 1936
Commanding Officer, Uzuki - 15 December 1938 - 15 November 1939
Commanding Officer, Yayoi - 15 October 1940 - 10 September 1941
Commanding Officer, Hibiki - 25 September 1941 - 13 August 1942
Commanding Officer, Ikazuchi - 13 August 1942 - 27 August 1942
Promoted Commander - 1 November 1942

Ishii was KIA at some point during the war, but I don't know the circumstances or the date. In any event, he was posthumously promoted Captain.

Maeda Saneho
Eta Jima Class 56 (class ranking unknown)
Promoted Midshipman - 16 March 1928
Promoted Ensign - 30 November 1929
Promoted Lieutenant (j.g.) - 1 December 1931
Promoted Lieutenant - 15 November 1934
Chief Torpedo Officer, Kumano - ??? - 20 August 1941
Promoted Lieutenant Commander - 15 November 1940
Commanding Officer, Mikazuki - 20 August 1941 - 5 August 1942
Commanding Officer, Ikazuchi - 27 August 1942 - 25 October 1943
Commanding Officer, Isokaze - 1 November 1943 - 7 April 1945
Promoted Commander - 15 October 1944

Ikunaga Kunio
Eta Jima Class 60 (class ranking unknown)
Promoted Midshipman - 19 November 1932
Promoted Ensign - 15 November 1933
Promoted Lieutenant (j.g.) - 15 November 1935
Promoted Lieutenant - 15 November 1938
Commanding Officer, W-2 - ??? - 1 March 1942
Commanding Officer, Sagi - 1 April 1942 - 30 December 1942
Commanding Officer, Mochizuki - 30 December 1942 - 15 October 1943
Promoted Lieutenant Commander - 1 June 1943
Commanding Officer, Ikazuchi - 25 October 1943 - 13 April 1944
Killed In Action - 13 April 1944
Posthumously promoted Commander - 13 April 1944

On 13 April 1944, Ikazuchi was torpedoed and sunk by submarine U.S.S. Harder (SS-257) 200 miles SSE of Guam while escorting ex-seaplane tender Sanyo Maru. Her depth-charges exploded during the sinking, leaving no survivors.

Other officers at the time of her sinking:
Chief Gunnery Officer: Lt. (j.g.) Oba Kouji (69) (posthumous 2-rank promotion to Lieutenant Commander)
Chief Torpedo Officer: Lt. (j.g.) Sato Koichi (69) (posthumous 2-rank promotion to Lieutenant Commander)
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Re: Kudo Shunsaku and the Destroyer Ikazuchi

Postby Dgahacker on 21 Feb 2013 01:39

Does anyone know if there is any information out there about the captivity and treatment of the rescued crew from the USS Pope? My grandfather was one of the survivors of the USS Pope, but he would never speak about his years as a POW. Any information or link to information would be greatly appreciated.
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Re: Kudo Shunsaku and the Destroyer Ikazuchi

Postby ijnfleetadmiral on 21 Feb 2013 07:26

Most POWs were not treated kindly...the Japanese viewed anyone who surrendered as sub-human and unworthy of humane treatment. However, there were some cases of kind treatment, and even one case where Japanese officers stood up for POWs. In 1944, cruiser Tone had 72 POWs from sunken British freighter Behar aboard. While en route to to Singapore from Batavia, ComCruDiv 16 VADM Sakonjo Naomasa ordered them all beheaded. This was carried out, but not before Tone's skipper, Captain Mayazumi Haruo and his XO Cdr. Mii Junsuke both strongly protested it. Post-war, both Mayuzumi and Mii were tried for war crimes over this incident, and received prison sentences. Mayuzumi died on 29 October 1992. Sakonjo was also tried as a war criminal for this incident, and was executed on 21 January 1948.
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