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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby Sewer King on 20 Oct 2011 04:27

hisashi wrote:In the peacetime, it was somewhat unlucky that one was drafted and it was a good news he finished his term safely. Then he, or maybe his parents also, bought small memorial presents to their friends, relatives and anybody they owe to ...

Thanks Hisashi, for this sense of the commemorative cups and flasks. With or without literature about them I would not have readily understood it as a casual learner who knows only little.

A present-day licensed dealer in Fukuoka city shows many more unit-themed cups. Seeing them as personal celebration adds more appreciation . In the American forces, drinking ware are simply pride or remembrance for the units or corps shown on them (I still have mine from the air force). There are saké ware collector's books, but for me they are too specialized for easy looking up.

The safe return of an ordinary conscript from the China war does not seem well-covered in English-language works, which probably look more at Pacific war soldiers' lives. I had first started with the idea that many of these drinking ware sets, or at least the finest ones, were more for officers.

    Some tellings do hint at a certain fatalism felt by the common soldier. As the China war dragged on, the danger of not returning from there became more widely felt, if still not openly spoken (Rottman’s Japanese Infantryman 1937-45 Osprey Warrior series volume 95, page 8) . The Army generals expected the China war would be won within a year. But after several years of it, and now in planning a new war in the Pacific, they had to explain the delay to the Emperor.

    How had it been explained to the public, if at all? After several years, maybe this began the unlucky (although private) feeling about Army call-up?
Some wars that were first promoted as short and easy victories brought social unease at home, after they dragged on for year after year –- as in World War I, the US Civil War, the Vietnam War.

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hisashi wrote:The meaning of keeping a natsume [tea caddy] on warship is that, he was even on the battlefield ready to held a tea party. Heijoshin ("keeping," ordinary sense) was considered as an essential feature of a good warrior. I feel keeping such a thing was a luxurious vainglory only allowed for high-rank officer who could claim more space on the warship.

That seems to fit, since not only does higher rank have its privileges –- often, it has its vanity too. I think there may be some comparison to officers in the old British Army who might carry certain fine personal things into the field –- say, silver cordial flasks, or favorite umbrellas. A gentleman officer was supposed to keep up a gentleman’s ways, even in the rigor and brutality of war. Maybe “poise” or “composure” are English terms similar to heijoshin, if not exact.

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Continuing mention of IJA rations from its early days – from Edward Drea’s Japan’s Imperial Army cited earlier. It repeats some of the trouble told elsewhere about bread issue, and barley in the rice, but it ends on a note of distaste. From page 74:

The army diet consisted of polished white rice, fish, poultry, pickled vegetables, and tea. Attempts by Japanese doctors to introduce white bread or a hardtack biscuit into the daily ration of the 1890s failed, but the biscuit did become part of the emergency field ration. Soldiers received just over two pints of cooked white rice per day even though anecdotal evidence showed that cutting the rice with barley prevented beriberi, known as Japan's national disease during the Meiji period. Between 1876 and 1885 about 20 percent of enlisted troops suffered systemic vitamin deficiencies and contracted beriberi; about 2 percent of them died. Field tests of a ration of barley mixed with rice conducted in 1885-1886 dramatically reduced beriberi cases (from almost 65 per 1,000 to just 35 per 1.000), but vitamin theory was still an unproven and contentious hypothesis. More significant, conscripts and officers alike regarded adulterated rice as penitentiary food (in fact, since 1875 it was prison fare) and considered it unfit for loyal soldiers of the Emperor, a case of cultural imperatives inhibiting disease control.

    (the author cites Harada Keiichi. Kokumingun no shinwa [Myth of the People's Army] (Yoshikawa Kōbunkan, 2001), pages 125, 141, 143)

This returns to the academic question of how often white rice was eaten by the average Japanese, before and during the Meiji era. We have noted that military service enabled many Japanese men to eat it every day as a normal thing. Apart from its rations issue, it seems as if the demand itself for white rice came about this way in a single generation. But maybe this was part of the fast modernization of Japanese forces in general through this time?

    Many ordinary Japanese, especially rural people, formerly ate a variety of other grains mixed with rice. Sometimes it was so diluted this way, that the rice could hardly be seen. Back then, they reserved pure white rice mainly for special occasions like New Year, when it was for mochitsuki. City people ate rice more frequently and thus suffered beriberi more, so that beriberi was then known in Japan as “Edo affliction.” (Cwiertka's Modern Japanese Cuisine, pages 66-68).

Dislike of barley in the rice ration repeats in many of our sources, but not its comparison to prison food.

Reliance on pure white rice made kakke (beriberi) common in the early IJA and IJN. Up to 120 out of 1000 sailors suffered it in the early 1880s, a very high rate (ibid). Although their officers were aware enough, there is no mention of how the men themselves saw beriberi. The nearest comparison might be that of British sailors before the 1790s, who feared scurvy (vitamin C deficiency) as a risk of life at sea.

Did early Imperial soldiers think of daily white rice as “a step upward” in their living standard? Or maybe as a soldier's privilege? Just as daily rice had once been the privilege of richer, city Japanese.

    If so, maybe the men saw barley as an adulterant in rice -- a “step downward?” The troops might have thought such rice was degraded, rather than fortified (as intended). This feeling might be like that of wartime Germans, whose bread flour was stretched with sawdust.

    Maybe, would the men also have felt cheated if their white rice was later mixed with barley? In war, they will endure shortages and losses of food along with all other soldiers' hardships. But feeling that their officers deliberately gave them poor rations -- even if untrue –- this would cause many soldiers to grumble throughout history.

In the Siberian expedition long afterward, Hisashi explained how IJA soldiers felt underfed on bread rations. Bread had had to be substituted for rice. The men may have lived alright on it, but this feeling against bread (and for rice) was strong and not to be ignored.

    For some, this feeling might be best understood by reverse example. Imagine, say, average US soldiers of that time having to eat an Asian rice diet for a long time. They might not have liked it for similar reasons to Japanese troops disliking bread.

    In fact, a rice-based field ration had been improvised for some US troops in New Guinea in 1943. This combined rice with C Ration canned meats and D Ration bars for field meals. Although It worked to vary the boring C Ration itself, it was not popular.


There are similar examples in different armies and different times, where soldiers were dissatisfied with their allies' food rations. And also enough opposite cases where they liked their enemies' or allies' rations better than their own.

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

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Peter H wrote:From ebay,seller nyyphotos: ”Ice-fishing”

It might be difficult to tell, but have they caught pike fish? Saury fish (sanma) is similar to pike and popular in China, Japan, and Korea. But that is a salt-water fish, rather than one from inland waters of north China or Manchuria.

Fish caught overseas may differ from those at home in Japan, and other ingredients might be limited in the field. This might be especially so when troops were further forward, and the later in the war they were.

    I imagined that local fish unfamiliar to them would be somehow adapted to Japanese cooking, or else cooked in the simplest ways. Sometimes, soup is a way to ensure that everyone gets some of the scarce meat or fish.

    Also, that the officers would get first pick of whatever their men caught.

Like many other photos, in the IJA and in other armies, this one gives a propaganda impression that “our troops are doing well and even have time to enjoy fresh fish.”

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A well-set table, good for the camera. We cannot see what is at either side of it, but does it seem not to be a garrison mess?

What would the large wicker basket have been for, on the floor? It seems the head of the table is a squad leader's or NCO's place.

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A haunch of fresh meat like this would be welcome at any field kitchen of the time. The large spoon is not an illustrator's exaggeration. We saw it in this photo shown earlier, from the time of Nomonhan.

On the cooking table are what look like white radishes, and a bowl of potatoes, maybe. Aren't there many different miso soups made with vegetables, seafood, or meats?

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby Sewer King on 29 Oct 2011 13:59

Below is a detail from an illustration of a soldier's field equipment and weapons, magnified from Miyamoto Saburo's work and presented in this thread of his front-line war art by Peter H. Does it show mess gear?

IJA war art by Miyamoto Saburo -- detail.jpg

    Being round, it is very different from the standard IJA mess tin. Apparently it's only a part of some other kit, maybe a private make? Its round pan has a wire handle (removable or folding?) which is crimped deeply.

    A keeper is riveted onto the pan's other side. This seems to be for a strap or another handle to pass through it, for holding the pan onto the rest of the kit.

Underneath the round pan, there looks something like one of the unpainted rectangular mess tins, as used by IJN sailors. It too seems to have a folding wire handle, similar to British Army mess tins. But Miyamoto’s sketches are of Army equipment and soldiers.

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Brady wrote:One thing I have noticed in watching contemporary Japanese Anime, is the use of the "standard Japanese mess kit ..."
Sewer King wrote:Certain well-known military-style school uniform remain in traditional use in Japan, those of boys originating with Prussian cadets, and the girls' with Royal Navy sailors. [Did the] the army-style mess kits still survive in some school use for any time after the war (?). If so, they would be as incidental and taken for granted in anime as the uniforms would be.

… Imperial Japanese mess kits look most like the classic German ones. I think they continued in postwar use with the Japanese Ground Self-Defense Force [JGSDF] as well as other Asian armies

This was the photo that had suggested to me that the old mess kit was still used long after. A JGSDF woman soldier in battle dress eats a meal during field training.

JGSDF woman soldier, eating meal in field.jpg
(article by Fallows, Deborah. “Japanese Women.” National Geographic, April 1990, pages 58-59)

Her mess kit is the old classic one, but seems to be lined with plastic wrap here. So is the kit's lid on the ground. Maybe this saves washing afterward when a meal was only served in them, instead of cooked? The folding fork is modern, but is it issue?

    IJA mess kits had two short line marks stamped into them, one above the other. This was for cooking rice –- rice was measured up to the lower mark, then water poured up to the higher mark.

Around this time the JGSDF was issuing a field uniform of three-color, woodland-type camouflage pattern. But hers is the older, plain olive-green one. She also has the older 7.62mm rifle Type 64, which went out of production that year in favor of the 5.56mm Type 89.

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby hisashi on 28 Nov 2011 15:55

Sewer King wrote:
Peter H wrote:From ebay,seller nyyphotos: ”Ice-fishing”

It might be difficult to tell, but have they caught pike fish?


Pike fish live in warmer sea and saury fish has less developed jaw. If it was hokkaido, rainbow trout is a typical large-sized ice-fishing target. I am not sure about this pic.






Caption on this cartoon reads 'Let us make tonjiru with this meat!' 'Tonjiru! Good enough for me!'

Tonjiru is miso soup with sliced pork, Chinese radish and any available vegetable.

pics of tonjiru:
http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%E8%B1 ... 83&bih=724

High calory stew popular especially in winter. Set menu in Japanese restaurant often include miso soup, and some popular restaurants have tonjiru option instead of ordinal miso soup for hungry customer.

Usually miso soup is a side dish, with simple fillings. Unlike wehrmacht gulasch, Japaneses rather eat simple miso soup and boiled items respectively. In informal situation, we often put the soup into rice bowl and eat pollidge-like mixing. Tonjiru is rather new variation in Japanese set meal.

On the other hand, pot menu seasoned with miso (misonabe) is common and variated.

pics of misonabe:
http://www.google.co.jp/search?q=%E5%91 ... 83&bih=724

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby Sewer King on 04 Dec 2011 05:47

hisashi wrote:
Caption on this cartoon reads 'Let us make tonjiru with this meat!' 'Tonjiru! Good enough for me!'

Tonjiru is miso soup with sliced pork, Chinese radish and any available vegetable ...

Thanks Hisashi, for the finer sense of translation as always. Not only of words and their senses, but also emotion in them. We would see only that the cooks are glad of the meat, but not the appetizing reason why, of tonjiru.

Good cheer was written into many wartime comics or illustrations from all the combatants, but it seems more so in those of IJA and IJN postcards.

hisashi wrote:High calory stew popular especially in winter ...

That is what I thought might be in an earlier photo of IJA soldiers who caught rabbits. But I imagined rabbit stew (usagi nabe) would not be common.

hisashi wrote:... Usually miso soup is a side dish, with simple fillings. Unlike Wehrmacht gulasch, Japaneses rather eat simple miso soup and boiled items respectively ...

This is an interesting contrast you point out. Gulasch as often described from the German Army field kitchens could be thick or thin, rich or lean, depending on what the cooks could get. But it seems as if miso soups might be less affected like that, so long as miso itself was in steady supply.

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Peter H wrote:Meal distribution

Thanks Peter, it is always appetizing to see more about Navy food. It seems to keep its reputation over the Army’s even in peacetime photos – and the same goes in most any other country.

Sailors' mess tins are lined up here with their lids nested underneath them, presumably the same aluminum kinds we have seen earlier. It is hard to see directly. But might it be something like pickled vegetables, such as fukujinzuke, that is being served into them? As a side dish for the rice in the basket, which it seems will be added next.

    Might this be compared to the soldier's mid-day lunch packed into his Army mess kit? The sailors are half-filling the tins with bare hands.

    Also this is our first photo of sailors actually using these tins, although an earlier one shows similar ones used by soldiers on board ship. We can't tell if the sailors are working while afloat or ashore. Would the woven basket be something more likely for use ashore?

In our photos of Army or Navy messing, a watchful NCO is typically seen. Here he is told by the single stripe around his deck cap.

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

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Peter H wrote:Cold weather rations

These troops do not look as cheerful as those eating in other photos, but it may be harder for a photographer to encourage it here. It may also be difficult to eat standing in the open cold while wearing heavy gloves and coats. We cannot easily see what they have. However, Hisashi pointed out that rice could not be served in extreme cold, and the bread substituted for it (as in this photo?) was not well-liked.

How did soldiers carry water in their canteens without it freezing? One of our photos elsewhere suggests that they would wear infantry equipment inside their winter coats.

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Peter H wrote:Assorted ration photos

The star would be the military marking, but --

    -- the zigzag stripe { /\/\ ) appears on different IJA things, like army flags or soldiers’ hokobukuro (small personal effects’ bags). It is also seen in the arm-of-service color stripe on the IJA uniform blouse, comparable to German military Waffenfarben, Does the /\/\ symbolize something, like mountains? Do these stripes have a Japanese term?

If these items were packed together for issue, unfortunately we can’t see how they were. Presumably in some weather-resistant box or crate? Various of the British and American pack rations were packaged to be poison gas-proof, as well as resistant to weather, although not to heat.

(first photo)
    center: One of our previous mentions of IJA combat rations told of a 5in (125mm) long tube of rice. Might this be one here?

(second photo)
    left: open boxes of food in bar shape(?}, on which the topmost kanji is gun (army)
    center: Small cloth bags of kanpan (hard bread crackers).
    right: rectangular cans with key openers, of the kind associated with canned fish filet. Is this one large can, or a stack of several flat cans held together by the wraparound paper label?

(third photo)
    right: Are the labels readable on the oval cans?

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Sewer King wrote: … Did early Imperial soldiers think of daily white rice as “a step upward” in their living standard? Or maybe as a soldier's privilege? Just as daily rice had once been the privilege of richer, city Japanese.

    If so, maybe the men saw barley as an adulterant in rice -- a “step downward?” The troops might have thought such rice was degraded, rather than fortified (as intended). This feeling might be like that of wartime Germans, whose bread flour was stretched with sawdust.

Maybe, would the men also have felt cheated if their white rice was later mixed with barley …?


While looking for something else, I found what seems to answer my social question above, about preferring white rice. It is apart from the other mentions, and the reasons Hisashi explained.

… For soldiers and sailors coming from peasant families, to eat plain rice was a dream. They had heard in their poor villages that they could eat as much rice as they could in the Army or the Navy. It definitely tasted much better than a mixture of rice and cereals! However, once in the military service, they usually ate plain rice without other nutritious supplements, resulting in cases of beriberi.

… [When the Navy went to issue] a mixture of rice with barley], the problem was that mixing rice with barley was unpopular among sailors, as such a meal would remind them of the hard life back in the poor villages.

… Initially, Japanese sailors and officers ate curry with bread, but the sailors had joined up to eat rice, not bread. Even by the early twentieth century, Japanese living in rural areas were not really in the habit of eating bread for meals. Sailors coming from rural areas recognised bread really as a snack, not as a meal.

    (excerpted from Yamamoto Fumihito, “Japanese Curry and the Navy,” Citizen Historian, 31 July 2007)

On a basic level this may be hard for westerners to understand at first. But consider that up through the 19th century, many soldiers in Europe and America came from rural or agrarian lives at a subsistence level. Despite stories often told today about how bad their food could be, some men might have thought the army’s regular meals were a small wonder in itself. This might be similar to rural Japanese who enthused about their daily white rice in service.

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby Sewer King on 25 Jan 2012 05:06

Much thanks to Taki for identifying these ration items in our recent photo:

Akira Takizawa wrote:From right to left, canned heat, side dishes of the compressed ration, compressed Miso, instant Miso soup.


This canned heat has a different, simpler-looking label than other surviving IJA examples shown previously, front and back.

In this photo, I had mistaken them for oval-shaped cans like those of seafood. But since they are round ones of canned heat, are they around 6cm diameter like those of today? If so, the small size of the packets can be told since they are next to the cans.

US Army rations introduced some of the first convenience foods first to servicemen and then to civilians. Might this instant miso also be the first of its kind in Japan?

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In her book Modern Japanese Cuisine much cited here, Cwiertka points out one occasion where IJN sailors demanded a change in their food, and their leadership complied. The result gives us another glimpse at what was cooked in their galleys. The dishes sound hearty and filling enough. From pages 74-75:

… Still, bread was not a staple in the navy. Food strikes that took place in response to the introduction after 1890 of meals centred on bread and ship’s biscuits, to which the young men were not utterly unaccustomed, ultimately led to a return to rice and barley as the staple in the navy. This experience, however, convinced the navy authorities of the importance of served food, and prompted the introduction of a variety of measures to satisfy the sailors’ taste preferences. For example, in 1935 the accounting division of the second squadron conducted a dietary survey that included all Japanese battleships. Nearly 500 recipes – the most popular – were recorded and distributed among all accounting units. A selection from this collection is listed here:


IJN selections of favorite dishes from 1935 survey.jpg

The author cited these from: Kaigun Shuseika, Kenkyu kondateshu (1936).

It would be interesting to see more of the 500 recipes and find which among them remain ordinary dishes in today’s Japan. This is because many of them may have been new to some men then entering the service.

Besides miso soup, and the curry rice (kare raisu) well-discussed earlier here and in another thread , this includes:

    “Parent and child bowl” (oyakodon), which of course refers to its ingredients of both chicken and whole egg. The name still refers to other similar dishes or variations of the recipe today.

    The beef stew recipe is close to a basic American beef stew or farmer’s stew. In it, miso, saké and shoyu take the place of mustard, red wine, and Worcestershire sauce.

    Potato croquettes in today's Japan (jagaimo korokke) vary widely with additions of meat, crab, or curry, etc, and with the ways of serving them.

    And potatoes in sour miso dressing is much like potatoes vinegarette in the West.

Cwiertka continued:

A characteristic feature of most dishes included in the 1935 navy collection of recipes was the prevalence of meat (beef and pork), lard, potatoes, onions and canned ingredients. By the late 1930s army menus would also follow this trend, but the innovation of army meals proceeded less smoothly than in the navy. Generally speaking, since the anti-beriberi measures of 1890, the navy continued to assign a larger budget for food than the army. Furthermore, because army catering involved many more mouths to feed, coordinating it was much more complex. For example, the total number of navy personnel in the late 1930s remained fewer than 200,000 men, while the total strength of the army exceeded a million.


For me at least, it is hard to imagine a sailors’ strike in the Imperial Navy, whether about bread or anything else. Even though the reason for this one is clear. Strikes sound so contrary to the strong discipline of the Japanese forces. But it also shows the powerful place of food in culture, which often does not give way easily anywhere. And the strike was successful in the end, too.

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Although they sound delicious enough, the dishes in this survey were only those served to the enlisted crewmen.

Earlier we have seen some mention of finer Japanese dishes served in the officers’ wardroom, especially for captains and admirals on board capital ships. Just as the crew would get special issue of sweets and alcohol just before battle, was it customary for the officers to have certain dishes served at the same time? Is there any samurai tradition in this?

Combinedfleet.com mentions:
1 November 1942: Aboard YAMATO, a festive dinner is held for all skippers stationed at Truk to celebrate the IJN's victory at the Battle of Santa Cruz.


From what we have seen about that ship’s mess to date, it was imaginably a fine dinner indeed. This was during the long period she spent anchored at Truk and got the nickname “Hotel Yamato.

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Re: Food rations in the Japanese forces

Postby Akira Takizawa on 25 Jan 2012 08:31

> This canned heat has a different, simpler-looking label than other surviving IJA examples shown previously,

It is the canned heat of early period. It had two types, round type and oval type.

front and back.

It is of late period. Early canned heat had a cap. But, it had no cap and it was cut by knife or can opener.

> In this photo, I had mistaken them for oval-shaped cans like those of seafood. But since they are round ones of canned heat, are they around 6cm diameter like those of today?

No, 7cm.

> US Army rations introduced some of the first convenience foods first to servicemen and then to civilians. Might this instant miso also be the first of its kind in Japan?

I don't know if it is the first or not, because IJA developed several kinds of instant foods like instant soy sauce, instant rice, instant juice, instant sake etc.

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