Type 95 Truck and Other Odd Vehicles

[Luftflotte2]

(left to right) 2x Toyota GB; unknown; Ford. The same grill is on this bus (taken 1935).

source:
ebay.com
https://reibert.info/threads/japonskij- ... 112/page-6

[Maxschnauzer]

Hi Luftflotte,
Both the truck and bus are American mid '30's Diamond T's:

[Luftflotte2]

Thank you Max. I remember Diamond T, but I was convinced this was a Japanese brand.

[Maxschnauzer]

Hi Luftflotte,
Well, I think you're half right. It looks like these were imported Type 80 chassis fitted with Japanese built bodies.

[Akira Takizawa]

Japanese trucks picked up along highway in Japanese Quartermaster dumps Guam

I think that they are not Japanese trucks, but western trucks. Does somebody identify these trucks?

Taki

[Maxschnauzer]

Hello Taki,
Correct, they are American trucks. Left to Right: '41 Ford COE, '41 Chevrolet, '39-'40 Dodge, another '41 Ford COE.

[Akira Takizawa]

Thank you, Max. So, they would be captured by the Japanese, when the Japanese occupied Guam.

Taki

[Bill Murray]

Hi Akira/Max:

Thank you, Akira for that most interesting photo.

I just spent about an hour Googling Guam in 1941 and although I found no more vehicle photos, I did find some perhaps helpful information.



On Dec. 7, 1941, there were 300 Navy Personnel and 153 Marines present on the island.
There was also a Pan American Airlines SeaPlane base for commercial and military travellers.
There was also a local Police Force of about 150 Guam citizens.

From what little I came up with so far, it seems the local force was mainly foot patrol although I am sure they had some sedan or convertible vehicles of some type.

The Marines were apparently used primarily as a security force for the Navy facilities and probably also for any US businesses on the Island.
They would not have likely had civilian style trucks like your photo shows. A better possibility would have been Jeeps and maybe some Ford Marmon Herrington or International Harvester military style trucks.

A better possibility would be the Navy and Pan American as the owners of your vehicles. The Navy used a fair amount of essentially civilian vehicles on these remote island stations and the 2 Fords have a body style I have seen before used by the Navy They had a very small ship base there and a much larger facility for Communications, both of which did not require "tactical military vehicles" if I can use that term. They used a lot of Ford products and almost no General Motors products at that time.

That leaves us with the Chevrolet and the Dodge and I would suggest both may have been owned by Pan Am. The Chevrolet as a load carrier and the Dodge as a personnel carrier for employees and such.

Just some thoughts and as I have time I will try to find some photo archives of the Naval facilities and the Pan Am Station to see if I can capture some vehicle photos.

Bill

[Maxschnauzer]

Hello Bill,
Thanks very much for that very insightful backround. I was wondering about the provenance of those trucks myself and like Taki assumed they had been ex-US military. I did not even consider the American civilian presence at the Pan Am Clipper terminal and elsewhere on the island. Ilookforward to finding something further.

[Luftflotte2]

Was the Type 93 6x6 car ever sold under the name Chiyoda instead of Sumida? Later on it was designated as the Isuzu K10 - which I see referred to as the Type 96. I have a sample from another forum which gives a description, but it is too pixelated for me to translate.

Regardless, it seems older models have a split bumper whereas the newer Isuzu has a single bar.

Source: https://reibert.info/threads/japonskij- ... oj.298112/

[Akira Takizawa]

Was the Type 93 6x6 car ever sold under the name Chiyoda instead of Sumida?

Type 93 was produced at both Isuzu and TGE. It was called Chiyoda HS at TGE.
http://minkara.carview.co.jp/en/image.a ... 3f7fb2fefb

I have never heard of Type 96 or Isuzu K10.

Taki

[Luftflotte2]

I think the first image I posted reads 'Sumida K'. Maybe when Ishikawajima and TGE merged in 1937 they continued with this name?

Hopefully I'm getting the history right, it is not easy to understand.

[Akira Takizawa]

The brand names of Sumida and Chiyoda were both abolished after they merged. The new brand name was Isuzu.

Taki

[Luftflotte2]

Yes, but the model name 'K' might have some connection to the supposed Isuzu model K10.

Regardless, thank you for helping.

[Gustav_SC]

Some interesting vehicles. I like the mini-truck.