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Re: Antiaircraft artillery regiments

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Post by Wellgunde » 06 Aug 2014, 10:39

Hello Fontessa,

Does JACAR shed any light on deployment of anti-aircraft artillery units (both IJA and IJN) in Nagasaki-ken around July through September 1945?

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Post by fontessa » 08 Aug 2014, 12:48

Hello Wellgunde:

According to JACAR C08010924500, the deployment of Sasebo Navy Guard Unit’s AA guns was as follows.

15.5 cm AA gun X 4: 長崎県東彼杵郡針生村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 佐世保市黒髪町
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 佐世保市相浦町
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 3: 長崎県東彼杵郡針生村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 長崎県北松浦郡鹿町村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 長崎県西彼杵郡面高村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 3: 長崎県西彼杵郡面高村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 長崎県北松浦郡柚木村
12 cm AA gun x 4: 長崎県東彼杵郡針生村
12 cm AA gun x 4: 佐世保市田代
12 cm AA gun x 4: 佐世保市天神町
10 cm twin AA guns x 4: 佐世保市八ノ久保
10 cm twin AA guns x 2: 佐世保市庵ノ浦
10 cm twin AA guns x 3: 佐世保市弓張
8 cm AA gun x 4: 佐世保市相浦町
8 cm AA gun x 4: 佐世保市天神町

I was surprised that 15 cm AA guns had deployed in Nagasaki-ken. As for the Army, only two 15 cm AA guns deployed at Kugayama, Tokyo at the end of the war.

Unfortunately similar data for the Army AAA units is not left. The 134th AAA Regiment was stationed in Nagasaki-ken.
http://www17.big.or.jp/~father/aab/4thA ... 134AA.html

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Re: Antiaircraft artillery regiments

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Post by Akira Takizawa » 08 Aug 2014, 17:09

> 長崎県東彼杵郡針生村
Not 針生村, but 崎針尾村.
http://ja.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E9%87%9D% ... E%E5%B3%B6

> I was surprised that 15 cm AA guns had deployed in Nagasaki-ken.
They were originally main guns of Mogami-class cruiser. Because Mogami-class was upgraded to 20cm gun cruiser, 15cm guns were removed. In the late WWII, 15cm guns in stock were converted to ground AA guns. I upload a photo of 15cm AA gun deployed at 崎針尾村.

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Post by fontessa » 08 Aug 2014, 22:31

Good morning Taki:

Thanks for the correction and the information. Do you know the number of Mogami class cruiser's main guns which were converted to AA guns?

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Post by ijnfleetadmiral » 08 Aug 2014, 22:43

When the Mogamis were re-gunned, there were 20 triple 6.1-inch turrets available. The original plan was to use 16 of the turrets (four turrets each) for the secondary guns of the four planned Yamato-class battleships, with the remaining four (two turrets each) allotted to the two planned Oyodo-class light cruisers. In the end, only ten of the turrets were used in this manner, eight for Yamato and Musashi and two for Oyodo, with the rest probably converted to AA guns, along with the four turrets removed from the two battleships during their AA gun refits mid-war. Hope this helps.
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Post by fontessa » 08 Aug 2014, 22:52

Good afternoon ijnfleetadmiral:

Thanks for the information.

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Post by Wellgunde » 08 Aug 2014, 23:12

Thank you Taki and Fontessa for this excellent information.

A Japanese person of my acquaintance is convinced that there was an artillery emplacement of some kind definitely located at 佐世保市山祗町 and also possibly on 烏帽子岳 at the end of the war. This person lived in 山祗町 so the memories are very strong even after sixty-nine years. These are both higher elevations so they would have been logical choices for AAA emplacements although I doubt that they would have made any difference as to the outcome of the two B-san raids directed against Sasebo.

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Post by fontessa » 09 Aug 2014, 00:57

Hello Wellgunde:

More…
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 佐世保市日野
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 3: 佐世保市大野
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 大村市西大村
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 長崎県東彼杵郡川柵町
12.7 cm twin AA guns x 2: 大村市西大村
12 cm AA gun x 4: 大村市西大村
12 cm AA gun x 4: 諫早市
12 cm AA gun x 4: 長崎県東彼杵郡千郷村
10 cm twin AA guns x 2: 大村市向井木場
10 cm twin AA guns x 2: 大村市福重
8 cm AA gun x 4: 大村市福重
8 cm AA gun x 4: 長崎県東彼杵郡川柵町

Although Wikipedia says that there was a battery in 烏帽子岳, I could not find it in the document I have referred to.

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Post by Wellgunde » 09 Aug 2014, 02:56

Thanks again, Fontessa.

This photo was taken on Mt. Yumihara (弓張) in Sasebo. It is reputed to be the remains of an AA emplacement. I visited Mt. Yumihara last October (spectacular views) but did not see or know of the existence of this location.

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Re: Antiaircraft artillery regiments

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Post by Akira Takizawa » 09 Aug 2014, 03:34

Fontessa,

It was decided that more than 25 15cm guns were converted to AA guns. But, it is unknown exactly how many of them were actually converted. Besides four 15cm AA guns at 崎針尾村, one 15cm AA gun and one triple-15cm gun turret were deployed near Kure. One AA gun is found on the photo of Kure Arsenal taken by the Americans after the war ended.

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Post by fontessa » 09 Aug 2014, 05:40

Good afternoon Taki:

Thanks for the information.

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Re: Antiaircraft artillery regiments

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Post by fontessa » 10 Aug 2014, 10:16

Hello Wellgunde:

I found the web site below.
http://www17.big.or.jp/~father/aab/aab.html
This site bases on JACAR 引渡目録 (Delivery List), which shows the kind of AA guns, and the locations of batteries.
In earlier post, I quoted 引渡目録’s Sasebo Guard Unit part. (JACAR C08010924500)

The web site has links to following 警備隊防空陣地.
- 呉警備隊・徳山警備隊 Kure and Tokuyama Guard Unit
- 佐世保警備隊 Sasebo Guard Unit
- 横須賀警備隊 Yokosuka Guard Unit
- 舞鶴警備隊 Maizuru Guard Unit

According to the above, 15.5 cm AA guns deployed as follows.
■ Kure Guard Unit
- Triple guns: 冠崎 (As Taki posted)
- Single gun: 鍋山
■ Sasebo Guard Unit
- 4 Single guns: 古里(崎針尾村)
■ Yokosuka Guard Unit
- 2 Single guns: 鴨居
■ Maizuru Guard Unit
- None

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Re: Antiaircraft artillery regiments

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Post by Mikhail Glazkov » 27 Feb 2015, 03:55

fontessa wrote:Hello Mikhail and Wellgunde:

I must apologize to you. I have mistaken.

According to JACAR C12121094300, artillery units of Nanan DDU were as follows.
- The 15th Field Heavy Artillery Regiment Replacement Unit
- 1 company of the 46th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion
- 1 platoon of the 20th Independent Machine Cannon Company
- The 3rd Company, the 42nd Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion
- The 85th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion
- The 6th Independent Field Searchlight Battalion
The following units were deleted.
- The 65th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Company
- The 14th Independent Field Searchlight Company

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Good day Fontessa!

I've found at JACAR the Brief history of the next units:
- 42nd Independent AAA Battalion, 46th Independent AAA Battalion and 20th Independent Machine Cannon Company (JACAR C12122429100);
- 15th Field Heavy Artillery Regiment Replacement Unit (JACAR C12122500700).

Do the following units have their own Brief History pages at JACAR ?
- The 85th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion
- The 65th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Company
- The 6th Independent Field Searchlight Battalion
- The 14th Independent Field Searchlight Company

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Post by fontessa » 27 Feb 2015, 12:41

Hello Mikhail Glazkov,
Mikhail Glazkov wrote: Do the following units have their own Brief History pages at JACAR ?
- The 85th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Battalion
- The 65th Independent Anti-aircraft Artillery Company
- The 6th Independent Field Searchlight Battalion
- The 14th Independent Field Searchlight Company
Only 2 units have Brief Histories.
- The 6th Independent Field Searchlight Battalion
→ Please refer to page 31 of JACAR C12122427600.
- The 6th Independent Field Searchlight Battalion
→ Please refer to page 34 of JACAR C12122427600.

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