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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Snautzer05 on 15 May 2012 11:42

there were Go244
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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Topspeed on 15 May 2012 20:12

Siebel Si-204
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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby phylo_roadking on 15 May 2012 20:49

Si-204 :wink:
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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby waldzee on 15 May 2012 21:37

phylo_roadking wrote:Si-204 :wink:

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The pix was taken after the first medevac flight out of Stalingrad- & it wasn't quite sure what it was...
Phylo- any rough idea how many Go-242 gliders woudl ahve been available for conversion before November 1942?

Excellent plane for the task- The Arava looks like a direct descendant..

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby phylo_roadking on 15 May 2012 21:50

The pix was taken after the first medevac flight out of Stalingrad- & it wasn't quite sure what it was...


lol, actually....no - It's a scrapyard pic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Siebel_204.jpg

Photo taken by Charles Curry in Wunstorf, Germany 1945


As for your other question...

A total of 1,528 were built, 133 of which were converted to the Go 244, with two 500 kW (700 hp) Gnome-Rhone engines fitted to forward extensions of the tail booms.


BUT...

The B series was the main production model, being based on the Go 242B with a wheeled tricycle undercarriage and with fuel and oil carried in the tailbooms. 133 were converted from Go 242 Bs, while a further 41 were built from new before production reverted to the glider Go 242.


:wink:

There's another interesting comment in the Wiki article on the 244, however...

The first prototype, the Go 244 V1 was powered by two 660 hp (492 kW) BMW 132, while the second prototype had 700 hp (522 kW) Gnome-Rhône 14Ms and the third 750 hp (560 kW) Shvetsov M-25A engines. Although only the third prototype offered adequate engine out performance, the Luftwaffe had large stocks of captured Gnome engines, so this was chosen as the basis for the production conversion, although a few more aircraft were fitted with the BMW and Shvetsov engines


Historically - it was just an interim solution to a particular problem; given REAL thought and priority, however...as in decent engines...
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The REAL fokker

Postby waldzee on 15 May 2012 21:53

http://www.canadianflight.org/content/noorduyn-norseman

I have been fascinated by Bob Nordouyn's designs - my older brother took me in a float plane flight when I was 16...
the craft was a first rate evacuation angel at Bastogne- wounded were flown out on skis before other aircraft could even take to the air.
Paulus woudl have bled for a fleet of UC-64's..

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Topspeed on 16 May 2012 09:37

phylo_roadking wrote:
The pix was taken after the first medevac flight out of Stalingrad- & it wasn't quite sure what it was...


lol, actually....no - It's a scrapyard pic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Siebel_204.jpg

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Over 1200 Siebel 204s were built...certainly some were used for medevac too ?

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby waldzee on 16 May 2012 11:22

Topspeed wrote:
phylo_roadking wrote:
The pix was taken after the first medevac flight out of Stalingrad- & it wasn't quite sure what it was...


lol, actually....no - It's a scrapyard pic...
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/File:Siebel_204.jpg

...

Over 1200 Siebel 204s were built...certainly some were used for medevac too ?

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The major production of the Siebel 204 took place after Stalingrad ( Wiki, same article), when the importance of Air evacuation was realised.
The USAAF was years ahead in air evacuation planning, procedures & equipment. At Bastonge in 1944, the ski lift of casualities raised morale .

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Re: The REAL fokker

Postby Trackhead M2 on 17 May 2012 18:12

waldzee wrote:http://www.canadianflight.org/content/noorduyn-norseman

I have been fascinated by Bob Nordouyn's designs - my older brother took me in a float plane flight when I was 16...
the craft was a first rate evacuation angel at Bastogne- wounded were flown out on skis before other aircraft could even take to the air.
Paulus woudl have bled for a fleet of UC-64's..

Dear w,
If this plane is a life giver does it make a mother Fokker?
Strike Swiftly,
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Re: The REAL fokker

Postby waldzee on 17 May 2012 21:00

Trackhead M2 wrote:
waldzee wrote:http://www.canadianflight.org/content/noorduyn-norseman

I have been fascinated by Bob Nordouyn's designs - my older brother took me in a float plane flight when I was 16...
the craft was a first rate evacuation angel at Bastogne- wounded were flown out on skis before other aircraft could even take to the air.
Paulus woudl have bled for a fleet of UC-64's..

Dear w,
If this plane is a life giver does it make a mother Fokker?
Strike Swiftly,
TH-M2

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No, a legitimate Canadian offspring! The aircraft played a sterling role in the Battle of the Bulge. ski equipped STOL craft were the Hueys of the day.
Like the Higgins boat- wood & fabrics finest hour...

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Arto O on 20 May 2012 00:27

Here using a Messerschmitt Me323
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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Juha Tompuri on 21 May 2012 06:59

Thanks Arto, what is the source the photo?

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Arto O on 21 May 2012 18:59

Hi,
Sorry, am I too lazy or what to write the sources? It is Histomil.com.
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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Juha Tompuri on 21 May 2012 19:59

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Re: Aircraft for medical evacuations

Postby Juha Tompuri on 21 May 2012 20:20

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