Bunkers with tank turrets!
- dirk Peeters
- Member
- Posts: 6568
- Joined: 24 May 2011, 21:18
- Location: Heist op den Berg Belgium
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
here a tobruk that has the some of the same features as the one in Italy
it is built several times in the 7 KVA H sector
the one from our plan was equiped with a APX turret ( R35)
Alain Chazette says it is a type "Fest.Pi.Stab.11 tobruk" in his Omaha book
Dirk
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
is not the same form
On Omaha sector it possesses a light central wall and no walking steps
AC
On Omaha sector it possesses a light central wall and no walking steps
AC
-
- Member
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 16 Apr 2006, 10:02
- Location: Denmark
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hello
Here is a photo of a front plate from a F.Pz.DT 4804, with 3,7 cm KwK, recovered from a Ringstand (probably Bauform 238) somewhere.
Photo from http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/71646/start/-1
Can anybody tell where this photo was taken?
lars
Here is a photo of a front plate from a F.Pz.DT 4804, with 3,7 cm KwK, recovered from a Ringstand (probably Bauform 238) somewhere.
Photo from http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/71646/start/-1
Can anybody tell where this photo was taken?
lars
- Attachments
-
- t_fot11_113.jpg (50.47 KiB) Viewed 2012 times
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
From Kystfort Forum ( Stril ) a Pz.Kpfw.Turm II(S) ( Befehlsausführung ) at airfield Haslemoen ( Norway )
Picture = Glomsdalsmuseet
Regards Jos
Picture = Glomsdalsmuseet
Regards Jos
- Andrzej Ditrich
- Member
- Posts: 1826
- Joined: 27 Sep 2004, 18:51
- Location: Gdansk/Sopot/Gdynia
- Contact:
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Another photo from propaganda magazine
-
- Member
- Posts: 391
- Joined: 09 Jan 2013, 17:55
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hi Lars, according to Polish forum. it was found at summer 2004 somewhere at Poland. The guy who posted the photo did not want to specify a location. Maybe any Polish colleague shall know more about it ... There were more F.Pz.DT 4804 turrets at Poland, but they are gone since the nineties. Some of them cut by locals, some ended up in German museums.Lars Bertelsen wrote:Here is a photo of a front plate from a F.Pz.DT 4804, with 3,7 cm KwK, recovered from a Ringstand (probably Bauform 238) somewhere. Photo from http://forum.valka.cz/viewtopic.php/t/71646/start/-1 Can anybody tell where this photo was taken?
Regards Ondrej
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Could this be the same place as on the color picture of Andrzej ??
Picture = Sudwall Forum
Regards Jos
Picture = Sudwall Forum
Regards Jos
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
yes it is Jos the same wood in right and the same house you see on the coast back
i said to Andrzej last week
AC
i said to Andrzej last week
AC
-
- Member
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 16 Apr 2006, 10:02
- Location: Denmark
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hello Ondrej
Thanks for info about FPzDT 4804. Interesting that there were several of these turrets in Poland. The German list dated 26/3-1945 says that 40 turrets of this type were sent to the Southeast (not East), but it is well known that there are some other minor errors in this list.
Do you have information about other FPzDT 4804? I only know about the turret at Zerkowice, which was removed during the 90es.
lars
Thanks for info about FPzDT 4804. Interesting that there were several of these turrets in Poland. The German list dated 26/3-1945 says that 40 turrets of this type were sent to the Southeast (not East), but it is well known that there are some other minor errors in this list.
Do you have information about other FPzDT 4804? I only know about the turret at Zerkowice, which was removed during the 90es.
lars
- Andrzej Ditrich
- Member
- Posts: 1826
- Joined: 27 Sep 2004, 18:51
- Location: Gdansk/Sopot/Gdynia
- Contact:
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hello,
There were also turrets placed in area of town Sulejów n. Pilica river. One of the turrets should be still on private property (without gun).
Color photo posted previously showing recovery of the gun looks to me like area of Sulejów.
One of the turrets from Sulejów already left Poland and is now on exhibition in one of Western military museums.
Hope it gives some light on Your questions.
Regards
Andrzej
There were also turrets placed in area of town Sulejów n. Pilica river. One of the turrets should be still on private property (without gun).
Color photo posted previously showing recovery of the gun looks to me like area of Sulejów.
One of the turrets from Sulejów already left Poland and is now on exhibition in one of Western military museums.
Hope it gives some light on Your questions.
Regards
Andrzej
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Must be from the same place as the photo's om page 15 , photo is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
-
- Member
- Posts: 391
- Joined: 09 Jan 2013, 17:55
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Nice photo Jos. It is not the same place, but the second turret at Remouchamps, located near the bottom of the valley. The visible building is hotel Bonhomme. The turret is still there, overgrown by vegetation.jopaerya wrote:Must be from the same place as the photo's om page 15 , photo is from Ebay .Regards Jos
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hi Ondrej
Great to have the right spot of this turret.
Regards Jos
Great to have the right spot of this turret.
Regards Jos
-
- Member
- Posts: 402
- Joined: 16 Apr 2006, 10:02
- Location: Denmark
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hello Andrzej
Thanks for the pictures. Nice turret, but it looks more like a Normalturm, because the FPzDT 4804 usually had a flat top plate with ventilation slits instead of the periscope cupola.
lars
Thanks for the pictures. Nice turret, but it looks more like a Normalturm, because the FPzDT 4804 usually had a flat top plate with ventilation slits instead of the periscope cupola.
lars
- Andrzej Ditrich
- Member
- Posts: 1826
- Joined: 27 Sep 2004, 18:51
- Location: Gdansk/Sopot/Gdynia
- Contact:
Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!
Hello Lars,Lars Bertelsen wrote:Hello Andrzej
Thanks for the pictures. Nice turret, but it looks more like a Normalturm, because the FPzDT 4804 usually had a flat top plate with ventilation slits instead of the periscope cupola.
lars
Yes it's normal turret-I tried myself to get into turret through this hatch