K5 Reichsbahn Series numbers

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Re: K5 Reichsbahn Series numbers

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Post by Janef » 29 Sep 2016, 20:39

According to a publication written by Finn Aarum in 2002 on "The Railway Guns at Knatterud", i.e. the former E 689 sBruno Battery, the two guns had the following Reichbahn numbers:

Tactical "A" - Nr 919060 - Nicknamed "Adolf"
Tactical "B" - Nr 919059 - Nicknamed "Benito"

The two guns, together with 4 french 24 cm railway guns and a lot of other surplus guns, were scrappet at Christiania Spigerverk in the mid 1950'ies.
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Post by rpk4 » 24 Oct 2016, 18:50

Just received Eisenbahnartillerie by Wolfgang Gückelhorn and Detlev Paul; K5 (E) Reichsbahn numbers, but only for 15 guns, 13 of which match up to the original list:
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919223 and 919447 are new to the list from the book, not sure if they belong. 919447 is actually listed twice, both as a 28 cm K5 and as a 28 cm K5 glatt (each time attached to E.749). Additionally, from over here:
Manuferey wrote: There is a propaganda picture of 919220 on this cover page of Wolfgang Guekelhorn in his 2014 book "Eisenbahnartillerie ..."
(see here for excerpts:
http://www.helios-verlag.com/booklets/e ... lerie.html).

On the top left of the 2nd page, there is a caption for this photo which indicates that 919220 belonged to E.712 when stationed at Hydroquent (near Calais), that it saw action afterwards in Russia and Italy and ended up in ... Trieste !

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So we assign 919220 to E.712 with Robert - and 919210 with E.2/725 with Leopold = 919210 would be Margaret...

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Re: K5 Reichsbahn Series numbers

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Post by Manuferey » 26 Oct 2016, 00:01

Jeff,

Thank you for posting this information.

I see that "919447" was nicknamed "Anni". I have seen one of the K5 guns in Russia nicknamed "Agathe" (handwritten on the back of the picture) but I could not read the Reichsbahn number. That would make two guns with a nickname starting with "A". :?

Also regarding 919447 listed twice, I would not be surprised if the Germans replaced an original 28 cm rifled barrel with a 31 cm smoothbore (i.e. "glatt") on the same carriage.

BTW, which guns are "glatt" on your table?

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Post by rpk4 » 26 Oct 2016, 22:22

The K5 data from Gückelhorn/Paul's Eisenbahnartillerie indicate 2x 28cm K5 glatt - 919443 and 919447, the later being the only one mentioned also as 28cm K5.

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Post by Manuferey » 26 Oct 2016, 22:48

Thank you, Jeff.

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Post by Manuferey » 28 Oct 2016, 23:18

Here are the Reichsbahn numbers given in the "Eisenbahnartillerie" book by Guy François:
919201
919210
919214
919216 "Robert"
919217
919219"Leopold"
919220
919223
919356
919396
919399
919443 (Glatt)
919447
919683
"22 K5 built - other numbers unknown"

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Post by rpk4 » 02 Nov 2016, 16:50

Thank you Emmanuel, that info helps the task. Not sure if the Hanomag = struts is going to work if all info is correct.
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Post by Manuferey » 05 Nov 2016, 00:25

Great summary table, Jeff.

It looks indeed that the struts are not special to Hanomag :o .

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Post by schwarzermai » 06 Nov 2016, 19:35

some additions:

26.01.1942.
919210 is ready for transfer from Rügenwalde to battery 686, alternatively is 919212 ready for shipping to battery 686

18.3.1942
919201 were transfered from battery 701 to Rügenwalde

4.6.1942
battery 749 were created with 919396 and 919399

15.7.1942
battery 688 were re-equipped with 2 x K 5: 919400 and 919497

18.12.1942
battery 698 were created with 1 x K 5: 919210 and 1 x Siegfried: 918593

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Post by Manuferey » 06 Nov 2016, 20:17

Great information ! Thank you, uwe.

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Post by schwarzermai » 07 Nov 2016, 09:50

24.8.1944
919201 were selfdestruct as part of battery 688

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Post by rpk4 » 07 Nov 2016, 18:38

Thank you Uwe, everything just got more complicated. I knew guns would be moved around, I was only hoping that was not the case. Looks like 919212 just got back on the list!

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Post by zero_88 » 10 Nov 2016, 19:34

Hello everyone, this is my first post, my name is Robert and I have some pictures:

I read sometime ago in a Russian blog that K-5E were in fact 30 in total.

I have another picture with 919 210
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Post by zero_88 » 10 Nov 2016, 19:40

I also have pictures with 919 214 P K-5E

Now 919 216 P K-5E 'Robert'
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Post by zero_88 » 10 Nov 2016, 20:02

Here are pictures with the Sluiskil train consisting in 919 217 P K-5E and 919 396 P K-5E (notice this gun has exploded in half) and 919 397 P K-5E a turntable carrying wagon. The site http://k5e.nl/

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