Unknow tobruk bunker
Unknow tobruk bunker
Hi All
These tobruks looks like model , build between
the Ringstand 58 and the Koch-bunker .
Looks a little bit like the "Kleinstanden"
Build in Italy and in Germany , does anyone
seen this tobruk in other places ??
http://www.forum-militaria.com/forum/vi ... 6db6af02aa
http://www.luftschutzbunker-emden.de/bu ... risia.html
Regards Jos
These tobruks looks like model , build between
the Ringstand 58 and the Koch-bunker .
Looks a little bit like the "Kleinstanden"
Build in Italy and in Germany , does anyone
seen this tobruk in other places ??
http://www.forum-militaria.com/forum/vi ... 6db6af02aa
http://www.luftschutzbunker-emden.de/bu ... risia.html
Regards Jos
Impressive memory!I've seen pictures of the same kind of tobrouk in Orland, Norway
I was sure I missed it, but when looking through my folders I found something similar.
Doesn`t look like the usual Rs58 style at the entrance to this one.
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Hello All
This is from a building report of St Nazaire
there are 4 x 58c and one IC 116 , this tobruk
was also build in other places in St Nazaire .
I always thought that this was a local design ,
but now I found a other IC 116 on a map from
Moliets-Plage ( Marineflakschule II ) .
Strange is that the cbm are same as the 58c .
Who can help me with this question ??
Regards Jos
This is from a building report of St Nazaire
there are 4 x 58c and one IC 116 , this tobruk
was also build in other places in St Nazaire .
I always thought that this was a local design ,
but now I found a other IC 116 on a map from
Moliets-Plage ( Marineflakschule II ) .
Strange is that the cbm are same as the 58c .
Who can help me with this question ??
Regards Jos
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Hi Jos,
Based on my experience from Denmark, the Fest.Pi. Stab was not too accurate on their cbm reporting on Tobruks. I have found 60 cm 58 c, where the volume reported was that of 40 cm 58 c. And 12 cbm looks a little on the low side for a nominal 58c, I think the volume should be 13.5 cbm.
bregds
SES
Based on my experience from Denmark, the Fest.Pi. Stab was not too accurate on their cbm reporting on Tobruks. I have found 60 cm 58 c, where the volume reported was that of 40 cm 58 c. And 12 cbm looks a little on the low side for a nominal 58c, I think the volume should be 13.5 cbm.
bregds
SES
Re: Unknow tobruk bunker
Hello All
This mounting from a French Breguet 19 aircraft was used in a Ringstand or other wooden structures ,
most of the photo's that I have seen of this mounting the guns were 8 mm M.G. 257 (f) and M.G. 15 .
Also it looks that most of the pictures are taken in the A.O.K. 1 , who has seen places with this mounting
in a other A.O.K. ???
Photo's = Tobruk Typologie from Alain Chazette
Regards Jos
This mounting from a French Breguet 19 aircraft was used in a Ringstand or other wooden structures ,
most of the photo's that I have seen of this mounting the guns were 8 mm M.G. 257 (f) and M.G. 15 .
Also it looks that most of the pictures are taken in the A.O.K. 1 , who has seen places with this mounting
in a other A.O.K. ???
Photo's = Tobruk Typologie from Alain Chazette
Regards Jos
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Re: Unknow tobruk bunker
The same device but not build in a tobruk , picture is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: Unknow tobruk bunker
Hello
I think it is a larger bunker with a tobruk, and what you see is the periscope, not the antenna?
Any one?
Regards
Kurt
kstdk
I think it is a larger bunker with a tobruk, and what you see is the periscope, not the antenna?
Any one?
Regards
Kurt
kstdk
Re: Unknow tobruk bunker
A Ebay picture from a 8 mm M.G. 257 (f) on a Brequet mg lafette .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: Unknow tobruk bunker
Hello Jos different affût ETVE Breguet
regards
AC from Royan, St-Gilles, Fecamp, Arcachon, Ronce
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AC from Royan, St-Gilles, Fecamp, Arcachon, Ronce