Possible Skoda 6VD/6SDManuferey wrote:schwarzermai wrote:hello
No idea about the truck, maybe Czech origin as well?
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I do not remember this detail, but there is a stopper-knob on the left side of the breech that protudes into a machined slot on the left side of the wedge and that has to be removed before dismantling the mechanism. A closer look at the picture reveals that the shield is different on the ones used in the Coast Artillery (straight edges). Apart for this the gun, recuperator, aiming device and trigger mechanism looks exactly the same. As the nearest gun is almost 600 km away I have no possibility to check out this detail in the short term.Manuferey wrote:Janef,
The breach of the 65 mm Hotchkiss does not have chamfers on the side unlike the breach of the 57 mm.
Emmanuel
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Hello,
For the nr 1 of post 1527, posted by "schwarzermai", it is a 47 mm modèle 1885 french navy gun taken from old ships in 1930 years to arm many casemates in "Ligne Maginot" intervals.
The old 47 mm and 65 mm navy guns had good penetration shells used against tanks ("obus de rupture").
The old navy guns had many slightly different typs of mounts: 2 for 47 mm modèle 1885, 6 for 47 mm modèle 1902 and 3 for 65 mm guns.
A drawing of the 47 mm modèle 1885 from "Notice relative à la description, au démontage, au remontage, au fonctionnement et à l'entretien des matériels de 47 mm et de 65 mm provenant de la Marine": 47 mm modèle 1885.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.
For the nr 1 of post 1527, posted by "schwarzermai", it is a 47 mm modèle 1885 french navy gun taken from old ships in 1930 years to arm many casemates in "Ligne Maginot" intervals.
The old 47 mm and 65 mm navy guns had good penetration shells used against tanks ("obus de rupture").
The old navy guns had many slightly different typs of mounts: 2 for 47 mm modèle 1885, 6 for 47 mm modèle 1902 and 3 for 65 mm guns.
A drawing of the 47 mm modèle 1885 from "Notice relative à la description, au démontage, au remontage, au fonctionnement et à l'entretien des matériels de 47 mm et de 65 mm provenant de la Marine": 47 mm modèle 1885.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.
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Other pictures of 47 mm Mle 1885 in casemates on the Maginot Line from other threads of this forum:
1) http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1282896
2) http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7#p1742737
Emmanuel
1) http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 6#p1282896
2) http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7#p1742737
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Here is another picture from ebay of the same gun with a shield or the same location posted by Janef:Manuferey wrote:Janef,
The breach of the 65 mm Hotchkiss does not have chamfers on the side unlike the breach of the 57 mm.
Emmanuel
And for reference, a 57 mm Hotchkiss (with a shield removed) in Argentina but with the chamfers on the side of the breach I mentioned earlier:
http://www.histarmar.com.ar/Museos/Muse ... delMar.htm
Emmanuel
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Hello @ all and thanks for your help!
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Hi all,
Can somebody identify these guns ? I think belgian or french, probably
Image from http://atf40.forumculture.net
Sturm78
Can somebody identify these guns ? I think belgian or french, probably
Image from http://atf40.forumculture.net
Sturm78
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Hello,
In my opinion it's a beglian double 120mm turret, as the ones in Eben-Emael.
Regards
In my opinion it's a beglian double 120mm turret, as the ones in Eben-Emael.
Regards
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Thank you, Eax-E
Any aditional information about these guns ? manufacturer, range, ......
On the other hand, Any idea about this recoiless gun ??
Sturm78
Any aditional information about these guns ? manufacturer, range, ......
On the other hand, Any idea about this recoiless gun ??
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It is probably Belgian turret for Liège, Namur or Antwerp fortress, definitely not French. It has not many marks to identify it, Belgian and German turrets (export models) were of similar shape. It has a hand system for rotation. The barrels outside the armour are longer than modern Liege turrets (Eben Emael, Battice).Sturm78 wrote:Hi all,
Can somebody identify these guns ? I think belgian or french, probably
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Hi,Sturm. 10.5 cm Leichtgeschütz 42.Sturm78 wrote:Thank you, Eax-E
Any aditional information about these guns ? manufacturer, range, ......
On the other hand, Any idea about this recoiless gun ??
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Thank you very mcuh for your help, Alan.Alanmccoubrey wrote
No, Sturm's pic is of the 15cm leichtegeschütz 42.
I had never seen any image of this weapon. Only prototypes, no ??
A pity the low quality of the image.
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Alanmccoubrey wrote:No, Sturm's pic is of the 15cm leichtegeschütz 42.
10,5 cm Leichtgeschütz 42
i think 15cm do not exist
Uwe
HelloAlanmccoubrey wrote:No, Sturm's pic is of the 15cm leichtegeschütz 42.
according to this book
http://www.amazon.de/Infanteriegesch%C3 ... h%C3%BCtze
its an 10,5cm Leichtgeschütz 43
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