wasserbombenwerfer VB den helder

Discussions on the fortifications, artillery, & rockets used by the Axis forces.
User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

wasserbombenwerfer VB den helder

#1

Post by der bunkermann » 16 Jun 2007, 09:19

hi guys (and girls? :D )
on a undated german map of batterie wierhoofd (VB den helder NL ) i found there were 2 wasserbombenwerfer to cover the entrance of the marsdiep. (and the naval port)

as we know in vlissingen and ijmuiden the wasserbombenwerfer were placed in bunkers, but for den helder i cant find any drawing of a bunker?.....
so how were they mounted in other places in the atlantikwall??
anyone has an idea where to find more about wasserbombenwerfer?
thanks,
gr. tim
Attachments
wasserbombenwerfer wierhoofd.jpg
wasserbombenwerfer wierhoofd.jpg (61.28 KiB) Viewed 2212 times

User avatar
Luchtkastelen 40-45
Member
Posts: 142
Joined: 07 Feb 2007, 22:03
Location: New Orleans (USA)
Contact:

The answer is....

#2

Post by Luchtkastelen 40-45 » 16 Jun 2007, 16:40

CCC14 should be some kind of bunker for a Wasserbombenwerfer.
Sorry, not in my personal archive.
Perhaps try a message to Jan, but I think he's in his French private "bunker" now.

Rgds, René


jopaerya
Member
Posts: 19238
Joined: 21 Jun 2004, 14:21
Location: middelburg

#3

Post by jopaerya » 16 Jun 2007, 17:05

Hello Tim

The Wasserbombenwerfers were nearly most harbour
entrances in the major port in the Atlantikwall . Please see also
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=39049

Regards Jos

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#4

Post by der bunkermann » 16 Jun 2007, 18:51

hi guys, thanks for the reply's
rene, jan is returned from his france bunker :D
after some searching i found the brv drawing of the w.b.w.
attached it below.
i wonder how the weapon worked?
by airpressure?
seems kind of dangerous to fire an wasserbombe by an explosive charge?
somehow the rack with the w.b. on it had to be moved controllable.......
greetings tim
Attachments
wasserbombenwerfer den helder.jpg
wasserbombenwerfer den helder.jpg (40.45 KiB) Viewed 2124 times

ducatim901
Member
Posts: 1051
Joined: 14 Jul 2005, 16:38
Location: netherlands

#5

Post by ducatim901 » 16 Jun 2007, 20:51

We, Remco Dank and myself saw one WBW firingtube in a museum on Terschelling and it looks like a mortar but with a fallblockverschuß on the bottom of the tube, it came from a Kriegsmarine vessel and it was found by divers or fisherman.
So to fire a WB there had to be a charge in the tube and the WB could be fired by pulling a string (i believe there was a lever on it).
Oh and i have drawn the BRV drawing and i thought it was a strange bunker, there was a observationpost on top of the bunker, and one of the floors is a bit lower than the other.
Greetings JK

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#6

Post by der bunkermann » 16 Jun 2007, 21:05

thanks for the info jack :)
indeed there was an obs. post on top of the bunker.
the 2 ''scharten'' for the w.b.w look quite the same as the ones in the V191 at kernwerk ijmuiden.
it's a shame so many was demolisched in den helder :(
gr. tim.

RuPo
Member
Posts: 407
Joined: 06 Nov 2005, 10:03
Location: Holland, IJmuiden
Contact:

#7

Post by RuPo » 18 Jun 2007, 12:28

<< ....i wonder how the weapon worked?
by airpressure? ..>>

There is an Waffen Reveu about this weapon.

Grtz, Ruud

http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/ku ... s/v191.htm

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#8

Post by der bunkermann » 18 Jun 2007, 12:44

thanks ruud, i also found info in the kustfront book;-)
gr, tim

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#9

Post by der bunkermann » 05 Aug 2007, 10:26

hi all, i found a nice picture of the wasserbombenwerfer at stp. wierhoofd.....
(source: den helder in de 2e wereldoorlog)
gr, tim

on the left you can see a part of the dutch fort harssens....
Attachments
wasserbombenwerfer wierhoofd.jpg
wasserbombenwerfer wierhoofd.jpg (132.31 KiB) Viewed 1728 times

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#10

Post by der bunkermann » 05 Aug 2007, 10:33

can anyone tell what the mast on top of the bunker is?
no ordinary flagmast..
the was also a hafen signalstelle nearby........

Ghaldez
Member
Posts: 4
Joined: 02 Aug 2007, 11:35
Location: Berlin ,Germany
Contact:

#11

Post by Ghaldez » 05 Aug 2007, 19:44

I guess it's for Funk or maybe for electricity...but electricity is always under the earth...hmm... so maybe telephone ? 8O

Zünder
Member
Posts: 438
Joined: 11 May 2004, 22:40
Location: Europe
Contact:

#12

Post by Zünder » 06 Aug 2007, 15:01

The Wasserbombenwerfer C/35 used a 50x159R cartridge, made either out of brass or brass coated steel.

Zünder,

http://www.wk2ammo.com
Attachments
5 cm wbw c.jpg
5 cm wbw c.jpg (121.92 KiB) Viewed 1615 times
500 01a.jpg
500 01a.jpg (184.56 KiB) Viewed 1609 times

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#13

Post by der bunkermann » 06 Aug 2007, 17:07

hi zunder, nice info!
gr, tim

Zünder
Member
Posts: 438
Joined: 11 May 2004, 22:40
Location: Europe
Contact:

#14

Post by Zünder » 06 Aug 2007, 17:28

I would like to know what kind of fuze they used.
To my knowledge, the minimum depth setting for german depth charge fuzes was 15 meters.
The boosterassembly needed hydrostatic pressure to operate as well.

How deep was the entrance to Den Helder, deep enough for the normal fuzes to work ?
Or did they use something else ?

Zünder,

http://www.wk2ammo.com

User avatar
der bunkermann
Member
Posts: 1591
Joined: 18 May 2006, 17:27
Location: stp. gr. scheveningen holland
Contact:

#15

Post by der bunkermann » 06 Aug 2007, 22:15

hi zunder, i haven't checked it, but i can hardly believe the entrance of the den helder harbour is 15 meters deep....
i'd guess about 9 meters.....

anyone has info about the depth of the ijmuiden entrance?
gr, tim

Post Reply

Return to “Fortifications, Artillery, & Rockets”