ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello
Here a picture of pole not from concrete but from steel filled with concrete .
Photo = David aka Pensistr ( Atlantikwallforum )
Regards Jos
Here a picture of pole not from concrete but from steel filled with concrete .
Photo = David aka Pensistr ( Atlantikwallforum )
Regards Jos
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Here a same type ringstand, but than at BP30 in Den Helder. It appears this one had a wooden pole.
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
hi maarten, i'll never get used to the baupunkten designations....
allways have to peak my books for the reference
for me its just batterie kijkduin..
en WN 103M there were also 2 or 3 ringstande of this type, 2 of them recieved a roof afterwards.
about the niches on the floor, maybe they could have been for ammostorage?
this example had a nice brick/wooden ammostorage
gr, tim
allways have to peak my books for the reference
for me its just batterie kijkduin..
en WN 103M there were also 2 or 3 ringstande of this type, 2 of them recieved a roof afterwards.
about the niches on the floor, maybe they could have been for ammostorage?
this example had a nice brick/wooden ammostorage
gr, tim
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello
Here a tobruk STS in W.n. 92 ( Festung IJmuiden ) concrete pilar with a m.g. mount .
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joost-ijmu ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joost-ijmu ... otostream/
Regards Jos
Here a tobruk STS in W.n. 92 ( Festung IJmuiden ) concrete pilar with a m.g. mount .
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joost-ijmu ... otostream/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/joost-ijmu ... otostream/
Regards Jos
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello
In Holland and in specific in IJmuiden a few Tobruk are called S.T.S. could be Schwere Tobruk Stand
does anyone have seen this in other places then IJmuiden ??
What strike me this form of tobruk has different size's of the ring 95 cm , 115 cm and even 130 cm
but the basic inner form is the same .
Photo's = Paul Dijkstra
Regards Jos
In Holland and in specific in IJmuiden a few Tobruk are called S.T.S. could be Schwere Tobruk Stand
does anyone have seen this in other places then IJmuiden ??
What strike me this form of tobruk has different size's of the ring 95 cm , 115 cm and even 130 cm
but the basic inner form is the same .
Photo's = Paul Dijkstra
Regards Jos
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
hello jos,
nice info... are these (S.T.S.) also written on the drawings/dokuments?
greetz
alex
nice info... are these (S.T.S.) also written on the drawings/dokuments?
greetz
alex
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello Alex
In the book Stp.Gr.Goeree from Jeroen en Peter , you can see on the drawings of the W.n.
le.M.G. Ringstand and s.M.G. Ringstand with different diameter opening on top ( 80. 95.115 and 130 )
The quistion is are the walls thicker or the weapons heavier ??
Regards Jos
In the book Stp.Gr.Goeree from Jeroen en Peter , you can see on the drawings of the W.n.
le.M.G. Ringstand and s.M.G. Ringstand with different diameter opening on top ( 80. 95.115 and 130 )
The quistion is are the walls thicker or the weapons heavier ??
Regards Jos
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
okay,
I found at WN 220 "de Punkt" a "bigger" tobruk, regarding the map its for a le.MG. (opening 1,15)
greetz
Alex
I found at WN 220 "de Punkt" a "bigger" tobruk, regarding the map its for a le.MG. (opening 1,15)
greetz
Alex
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello
Here a couple of photo's from Jack Westhoeve from a S.T.S. with a typical M.G. lafette
this one is used for a 7.5 cm Kpfw.M.G. 311(f) , the back is placed on the central pivot and
it looks a roller is placed on the tobrukring for rotation .
My quistion who has seen this type of M.G. lafette on other places ?? and could it be used
for other l.M.G.s ??
Regards Jos
Here a couple of photo's from Jack Westhoeve from a S.T.S. with a typical M.G. lafette
this one is used for a 7.5 cm Kpfw.M.G. 311(f) , the back is placed on the central pivot and
it looks a roller is placed on the tobrukring for rotation .
My quistion who has seen this type of M.G. lafette on other places ?? and could it be used
for other l.M.G.s ??
Regards Jos
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
hi jos, that is a very cool discovery!
i hope they took the lafette with them before it dissapears.
do you know wat the number resemble? coordinates or bunkers/WN's?
i hope they took the lafette with them before it dissapears.
do you know wat the number resemble? coordinates or bunkers/WN's?
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hello Tim
I realy don't know , looks more like a mortar information . As you know this type
could also be used for 5 cm mortars .
Regards Jos
I realy don't know , looks more like a mortar information . As you know this type
could also be used for 5 cm mortars .
Regards Jos
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Yes they are.AW wrote:hello jos,
nice info... are these (S.T.S.) also written on the drawings/dokuments?
greetz
alex
On OT maps of the area.
Greetings JK
Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
Hi Jack
Can you post them here or are they on your crashed HD ?
Regards Jos
Can you post them here or are they on your crashed HD ?
Regards Jos
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Re: ringstand WN 15 H.L stutzpunktgruppe texel
jopaerya wrote:Hello
Here a couple of photo's from Jack Westhoeve from a S.T.S. with a typical M.G. lafette
this one is used for a 7.5 cm Kpfw.M.G. 311(f) , the back is placed on the central pivot and
it looks a roller is placed on the tobrukring for rotation .
My quistion who has seen this type of M.G. lafette on other places ?? and could it be used
for other l.M.G.s ??
Regards Jos
Hi Jos, this pivot they found is a "behelfseinsatz für Ringstand", Gerät type 944S6.
it could also be used for the MG 34, MG 42, MG 24 (t), MG 26 (t), MG 37 (t), MG 116 (f), MG 127 (b), MG 249 (r) and MG 311 (f)
best regards,
Tom Oliviers,
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