Unusual Flak ?

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Unusual Flak ?

#1

Post by stril » 13 Aug 2007, 20:50

Hello
Added a picture that its possible to purchase, me marking some details not related to the question, and keep the seller and possible buyer happy :)
Some time ago there was a picture posted in this forum, a gunpit with some strange rails pointing up, and inwards to the middle of the pit.
I cant remember what the conclusion was about the picture, and cant find the tread.
The picture added have the same rails, and for me it seems to be a unusual setup. It reminds a litle bit of some of the early setup for flak. But im not sure if it is a flakgun. Anyone remember the earlier tread, or have a coment about this gun ? Jos ?
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#2

Post by jopaerya » 13 Aug 2007, 21:16

Hello Stril

I have seen a few photo's from these guns on Ebay , just as you
say I think there pre W.W. 2 gun or even W.W.1 that were used
during in 1940 , as you can see a lot of improvised rail-bettung to
have a flakgun .

Maybe you mean this gun that you were looking for ??
http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic.php?t=120792

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos


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#3

Post by jopaerya » 14 Aug 2007, 10:43

Hello

According to this internetsite the lafette is a French one from 1939
http://www.fortiff.be/alpy/index.php?p=4 ( middle of the page )
Looks like this lafette is a tempory solution for the lack of heavy French A.A.
I can't see if on Stril picture it's a 75 mm Mle 1897 or a 105 mm Mle 1913 ,
but it's looks that on the last photo the guns are 10.5 cm ???

Regards Jos

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#4

Post by stril » 14 Aug 2007, 11:27

Hello
Thank you Jos, always helpful.
The earlier tread had picture of a gunpit/bettung made of bricks. It looked like it was coneshaped. The only thing left in the pit was the frames.
But with the link and the pictures added it is clearly the same setup.
Im adding a part of the same picture. The gun seems to be damaged, with most of the barrel missing.
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stril

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#5

Post by jopaerya » 24 Sep 2007, 10:17

Hello

Here 2 more photo's from this strange bettung first photo
a 75 mm Mle 1898 and the last one a 105 mm .
Looks that the gunpit has a cone form

Photo = Ebay.usa

Regards Jos

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Post by ducatim901 » 24 Sep 2007, 14:03

Hi all,
Last winter 2007 we went to France and around Dunkirk we found the remains of a French AA battery.
Link*** http://good-times.webshots.com/album/558137911SvYQly ***Link
Michel van Best told us he saw more examples in the Maginotline.
Greetings Jk

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#7

Post by jopaerya » 07 Oct 2007, 22:02

Hi , here a new one from Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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#8

Post by stril » 08 Oct 2007, 16:32

Hello
Nice pictures. Its interesting to see the setup of those guns. Keep them coming. :)
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#9

Post by jopaerya » 26 Oct 2007, 20:52

Hello All

Here a photo of a bettung for the French flak , thanks to FX
http://sudwall.superforum.fr/provence-o ... -t1145.htm

Regards jos

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#10

Post by jopaerya » 03 Nov 2007, 11:53

Hi All

Here a other 7,5 cm French Flak near the coast , the M.K.B.
le Verdon 7./284 used the same gun also in a special mount .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Re: Unusual Flak ?

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Post by jopaerya » 09 Apr 2008, 11:48

Hello All

Who has any clue on this mount and gun , the barrel looks to be a 75 mm Mle 17/34 ??

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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Post by Alkali » 09 Apr 2008, 23:25

Hi All
jopaerya wrote:Hi All

Here a other 7,5 cm French Flak near the coast , the M.K.B.
le Verdon 7./284 used the same gun also in a special mount .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
Interesting fact. Identical anti-aircraft cannons used Polish army long before war. Called it 75 mm wz. 97/24 “on carousel(in French 75 mm Mle 97/24 ??).
On picture the cannon from 1. Anti-aircraft Artillery Regiment in Warsaw.
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Re: Unusual Flak ?

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Post by dimi_labada » 10 Apr 2008, 05:38

Good morning to everyone !!! (6.40 in the morning here in Athens...)
A!!! The endless 'Strange Triangular AA Gun Mounting' saga.... Well let me add 3 more photos that need identification
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Re: Unusual Flak ?

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Apr 2008, 14:35

Hello

According to this site the triangular mounting is a French one
from pre W.W.2 , please see on the bottum of this link .
http://sudwall.superforum.fr/provence-e ... -t1335.htm

Regards Jos

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Re: Unusual Flak ?

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Post by jopaerya » 10 Aug 2008, 19:11

Hello All

Found a very nice one from the unusual flak .

Photo = Ebay.de

Regards Jos
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