Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Interesting shoot - Thanks Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Hello
Could this be the 28 cm Neue Bruno K (E) near Coquelles ( I./725 ) , photo is from Ebay .
please note the name Alex
Regards Jos
Could this be the 28 cm Neue Bruno K (E) near Coquelles ( I./725 ) , photo is from Ebay .
please note the name Alex
Regards Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Hi Jopaerya,
I think it is an 28cm Lange Bruno K (E) of E.688 batterie
Regards Sturm78
I think it is an 28cm Lange Bruno K (E) of E.688 batterie
Regards Sturm78
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
I agree with Sturm78: lange Bruno based on the three stepped barrel (compared to two for neue Bruno) and most importantly the position of the rotational axis.
Emmanuel
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Thanks Guys
For I.D. this railwaygun , the name fits with the book from Guy , but the place looks to me Pas de Calais ??
Any idea of the E 688 was in the Pas de Calais sector in 1940
Regards Jos
For I.D. this railwaygun , the name fits with the book from Guy , but the place looks to me Pas de Calais ??
Any idea of the E 688 was in the Pas de Calais sector in 1940
Regards Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Here the same photo with photocaption , photo is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Regards Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Hello
Here a document that the 1./725 with the 28 cm Neue Bruno K. (E) was placed end 1941 in the socalled
"Zementfabrik Sangatte" ( Coquelles ) I am very curious wich unit the 2 8cm Lange Bruno K. (E) belonged ??
Walther von Brauchitsch was placed early december 1941 in the Führerreserve .
Regards Jos
Here a document that the 1./725 with the 28 cm Neue Bruno K. (E) was placed end 1941 in the socalled
"Zementfabrik Sangatte" ( Coquelles ) I am very curious wich unit the 2 8cm Lange Bruno K. (E) belonged ??
Walther von Brauchitsch was placed early december 1941 in the Führerreserve .
Regards Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Jos,
According to Guy François in "Eisenbahnartillerie", the only Eisenbahnbatterie that was armed with "lange Bruno" was E.688 and it had 3 guns (Alex, Bruno and Caesar). The lange Brunos of E.688 were in operation from 1940 until 1942. It was during the siege of Sevastopol that year that the barrels were completely worn of. The lange Brunos were then replaced by 28 cm K5.
Interestingly, KtSN Nr. 491 dated September 1st, 1944, for two 28 cm railway guns (K5, neue, lange & schwere Brunos) still included the lange Bruno in its title.
Emmanuel
According to Guy François in "Eisenbahnartillerie", the only Eisenbahnbatterie that was armed with "lange Bruno" was E.688 and it had 3 guns (Alex, Bruno and Caesar). The lange Brunos of E.688 were in operation from 1940 until 1942. It was during the siege of Sevastopol that year that the barrels were completely worn of. The lange Brunos were then replaced by 28 cm K5.
Interestingly, KtSN Nr. 491 dated September 1st, 1944, for two 28 cm railway guns (K5, neue, lange & schwere Brunos) still included the lange Bruno in its title.
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Here is a picture from ECPAD showing a drawing of a 28 cm neue Bruno from E.688 while stationed in the Calais area:
http://www.ecpad.fr/wp-content/gallery/ ... 02-L03.jpg
Emmanuel
http://www.ecpad.fr/wp-content/gallery/ ... 02-L03.jpg
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Very nice picture Emmanuel
The gun on the photo with von Brauchitsch is 100% I.D. at Coquelles , the gun on the same photo
we have also determined as the 28 cm Lange Bruno K. (E) so it must be that the E.A.B. 688 was at
Zementfabrik at Sangatte ( Coquelles) before the start of Operation Barbarossa and before the 1./725 .
Regards Jos
The gun on the photo with von Brauchitsch is 100% I.D. at Coquelles , the gun on the same photo
we have also determined as the 28 cm Lange Bruno K. (E) so it must be that the E.A.B. 688 was at
Zementfabrik at Sangatte ( Coquelles) before the start of Operation Barbarossa and before the 1./725 .
Regards Jos
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
ERRATUM: please read E.1./725 and not E.688, of course.Manuferey wrote:Here is a picture from ECPAD showing a drawing of a 28 cm neue Bruno from E.688 while stationed in the Calais area:
Emmanuel
Jos,
It looks like many German E-batteries were assigned to French harbors starting in July 1940 as a way to quickly provide coastal defences but were replaced by other batteries later on or not replaced at all (e.g. St-Valery-en-Caux). We often have information for the E-batteries that came afterwards like 1./725 at Coquelles but not yet much information on the E-batteries near French harbors before 1941.
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
In his book "Eisenbahnartillerie", Guy Francois mentions that E.688 was positioned in March 1941 at Anadalchioi, in the north of the Romanian harbor of Constanza in order to provide coastal defense.jopaerya wrote:Very nice picture Emmanuel
The gun on the photo with von Brauchitsch is 100% I.D. at Coquelles , the gun on the same photo
we have also determined as the 28 cm Lange Bruno K. (E) so it must be that the E.A.B. 688 was at
Zementfabrik at Sangatte ( Coquelles) before the start of Operation Barbarossa and before the 1./725 .
Regards Jos
Separately, there is this ebay picture of a 28 cm lg. Br.K with a writing on the back mentioning Le Havre, France at the end of September 1940. E.688 could have been positioned near this harbor to provide coastal defense during the preparation for Operation Seeloewe.
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Hi - the Artillerie piece in the photos with General Feld Marschall Brauchitsch
is most certaily a 28 cm lg. Br.K E, Eisenbahn ID 919 054 and named "Alex".
The other two guns are 919 055 "Bruno" and 919 056 "Caesar"
Regards
is most certaily a 28 cm lg. Br.K E, Eisenbahn ID 919 054 and named "Alex".
The other two guns are 919 055 "Bruno" and 919 056 "Caesar"
Regards
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
I'm surprised that the Germans used "Alex" and not "Anton" as "Anton", "Bruno" and "Caesar" are typical first names used by the Germans to designate their guns in a battery (or the turrets on a battleship) e.g. gun No.1 = A = Anton, No.2 = B = Bruno, No. 3 = C = Caesar, ...
It is based on the German phonetic alphabet of WW2 (if it's too hard to read in gothic, try this:
http://www.feldgrau.com/alphabet.html)
Here is a 27,4 cm K(E)592(f) "Caesar" captured in Livron, (near Montélimar in Southern France in August 1944:
http://www.museedelaresistanceenligne.o ... de/434.jpg
Emmanuel
It is based on the German phonetic alphabet of WW2 (if it's too hard to read in gothic, try this:
http://www.feldgrau.com/alphabet.html)
Here is a 27,4 cm K(E)592(f) "Caesar" captured in Livron, (near Montélimar in Southern France in August 1944:
http://www.museedelaresistanceenligne.o ... de/434.jpg
Emmanuel
Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais
Hello Guys,
It is a long time since I posted in this forum, but the K-12 is the German artillery piece that interests me the most.
I have a question. Various books and internet sites state that shell splinters from the K-12 were discovered near Rainham (near Chatham) in Kent, England. The book "Front Line County" by Andrew Rootes even gives the date of 19/20 November 1940 when this attack occurred. It also states that there were eight shells that landed in the area. However, I have checked the War Diary for the area (in the Kent County Archive) and can find no evidence that any shells came down. I have also checked various documents in the National Archives and can find no mention of such an incident. Does anyone have any other sources that this attack actually happened? Otherwise I think it may be an 'urban myth'.
Of course, we do know for certain that the K-12 shelled the Kent town of Maidstone on 13th June 1944. However, I can find no documentary evidence of any other K-12 attacks against England. Any information would be welcome.
Best Regards,
John.
It is a long time since I posted in this forum, but the K-12 is the German artillery piece that interests me the most.
I have a question. Various books and internet sites state that shell splinters from the K-12 were discovered near Rainham (near Chatham) in Kent, England. The book "Front Line County" by Andrew Rootes even gives the date of 19/20 November 1940 when this attack occurred. It also states that there were eight shells that landed in the area. However, I have checked the War Diary for the area (in the Kent County Archive) and can find no evidence that any shells came down. I have also checked various documents in the National Archives and can find no mention of such an incident. Does anyone have any other sources that this attack actually happened? Otherwise I think it may be an 'urban myth'.
Of course, we do know for certain that the K-12 shelled the Kent town of Maidstone on 13th June 1944. However, I can find no documentary evidence of any other K-12 attacks against England. Any information would be welcome.
Best Regards,
John.