Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 23 Jan 2011, 00:59

Interesting shoot - Thanks Jos :)

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by jopaerya » 28 Sep 2012, 17:48

Hello

Could this be the 28 cm Neue Bruno K (E) near Coquelles ( I./725 ) , photo is from Ebay .
please note the name Alex

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by Sturm78 » 29 Sep 2012, 11:55

Hi Jopaerya,

I think it is an 28cm Lange Bruno K (E) of E.688 batterie

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Post by Manuferey » 29 Sep 2012, 18:25

I agree with Sturm78: lange Bruno based on the three stepped barrel (compared to two for neue Bruno) and most importantly the position of the rotational axis.

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Post by jopaerya » 29 Sep 2012, 19:09

Thanks Guys

For I.D. this railwaygun , the name fits with the book from Guy , but the place looks to me Pas de Calais ??
Any idea of the E 688 was in the Pas de Calais sector in 1940

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Post by jopaerya » 04 Oct 2012, 11:35

Here the same photo with photocaption , photo is from Ebay .

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Post by jopaerya » 14 Oct 2012, 19:04

Hello

Here a document that the 1./725 with the 28 cm Neue Bruno K. (E) was placed end 1941 in the socalled
"Zementfabrik Sangatte" ( Coquelles ) I am very curious wich unit the 2 8cm Lange Bruno K. (E) belonged ??
Walther von Brauchitsch was placed early december 1941 in the Führerreserve .

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by Manuferey » 15 Oct 2012, 00:47

Jos,

According to Guy François in "Eisenbahnartillerie", the only Eisenbahnbatterie that was armed with "lange Bruno" was E.688 and it had 3 guns (Alex, Bruno and Caesar). The lange Brunos of E.688 were in operation from 1940 until 1942. It was during the siege of Sevastopol that year that the barrels were completely worn of. The lange Brunos were then replaced by 28 cm K5.

Interestingly, KtSN Nr. 491 dated September 1st, 1944, for two 28 cm railway guns (K5, neue, lange & schwere Brunos) still included the lange Bruno in its title.

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Post by Manuferey » 15 Oct 2012, 00:51

Here is a picture from ECPAD showing a drawing of a 28 cm neue Bruno from E.688 while stationed in the Calais area:

http://www.ecpad.fr/wp-content/gallery/ ... 02-L03.jpg

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Post by jopaerya » 15 Oct 2012, 14:01

Very nice picture Emmanuel

The gun on the photo with von Brauchitsch is 100% I.D. at Coquelles , the gun on the same photo
we have also determined as the 28 cm Lange Bruno K. (E) so it must be that the E.A.B. 688 was at
Zementfabrik at Sangatte ( Coquelles) before the start of Operation Barbarossa and before the 1./725 .

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by Manuferey » 16 Oct 2012, 02:48

Manuferey wrote:Here is a picture from ECPAD showing a drawing of a 28 cm neue Bruno from E.688 while stationed in the Calais area:
Emmanuel
ERRATUM: please read E.1./725 and not E.688, of course.

Jos,

It looks like many German E-batteries were assigned to French harbors starting in July 1940 as a way to quickly provide coastal defences but were replaced by other batteries later on or not replaced at all (e.g. St-Valery-en-Caux). We often have information for the E-batteries that came afterwards like 1./725 at Coquelles but not yet much information on the E-batteries near French harbors before 1941.

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Post by Manuferey » 23 Oct 2012, 01:35

jopaerya wrote:Very nice picture Emmanuel
The gun on the photo with von Brauchitsch is 100% I.D. at Coquelles , the gun on the same photo
we have also determined as the 28 cm Lange Bruno K. (E) so it must be that the E.A.B. 688 was at
Zementfabrik at Sangatte ( Coquelles) before the start of Operation Barbarossa and before the 1./725 .
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In his book "Eisenbahnartillerie", Guy Francois mentions that E.688 was positioned in March 1941 at Anadalchioi, in the north of the Romanian harbor of Constanza in order to provide coastal defense.

Separately, there is this ebay picture of a 28 cm lg. Br.K with a writing on the back mentioning Le Havre, France at the end of September 1940. E.688 could have been positioned near this harbor to provide coastal defense during the preparation for Operation Seeloewe.

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by EPOCH3 » 20 Jan 2013, 20:50

Hi - the Artillerie piece in the photos with General Feld Marschall Brauchitsch
is most certaily a 28 cm lg. Br.K E, Eisenbahn ID 919 054 and named "Alex".
The other two guns are 919 055 "Bruno" and 919 056 "Caesar"
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Post by Manuferey » 22 Jan 2013, 01:00

I'm surprised that the Germans used "Alex" and not "Anton" as "Anton", "Bruno" and "Caesar" are typical first names used by the Germans to designate their guns in a battery (or the turrets on a battleship) e.g. gun No.1 = A = Anton, No.2 = B = Bruno, No. 3 = C = Caesar, ...

It is based on the German phonetic alphabet of WW2 (if it's too hard to read in gothic, try this:
http://www.feldgrau.com/alphabet.html)
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Here is a 27,4 cm K(E)592(f) "Caesar" captured in Livron, (near Montélimar in Southern France in August 1944:
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http://www.museedelaresistanceenligne.o ... de/434.jpg

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Re: Eisenbahn Batteries at Pas de Calais

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Post by lucifer » 19 Mar 2013, 14:54

Hello Guys,

It is a long time since I posted in this forum, but the K-12 is the German artillery piece that interests me the most.

I have a question. Various books and internet sites state that shell splinters from the K-12 were discovered near Rainham (near Chatham) in Kent, England. The book "Front Line County" by Andrew Rootes even gives the date of 19/20 November 1940 when this attack occurred. It also states that there were eight shells that landed in the area. However, I have checked the War Diary for the area (in the Kent County Archive) and can find no evidence that any shells came down. I have also checked various documents in the National Archives and can find no mention of such an incident. Does anyone have any other sources that this attack actually happened? Otherwise I think it may be an 'urban myth'.

Of course, we do know for certain that the K-12 shelled the Kent town of Maidstone on 13th June 1944. However, I can find no documentary evidence of any other K-12 attacks against England. Any information would be welcome.

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