9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e) in Holland
9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e) in Holland
Hello All
According to the photocaption a gun in Holland ,
looks to me a 9.4 cm M 39 (e) with a nice bunker.
Photo's = Ebay.de
Regards Jos
According to the photocaption a gun in Holland ,
looks to me a 9.4 cm M 39 (e) with a nice bunker.
Photo's = Ebay.de
Regards Jos
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Hi Jos,
I found again another photo of the series, this time with the gun in an open emplacement.
If the people we see in all the pictures (scrap dealers? German soldiers or POW ?) hauled the gun to the beach and not through the back country, it's probably the way the gun was brought in in the first place. It means that there was no practical road behind the dunes. Any idea where it could be in Holland ?
Emmanuel
I found again another photo of the series, this time with the gun in an open emplacement.
If the people we see in all the pictures (scrap dealers? German soldiers or POW ?) hauled the gun to the beach and not through the back country, it's probably the way the gun was brought in in the first place. It means that there was no practical road behind the dunes. Any idea where it could be in Holland ?
Emmanuel
Hello Emmanuel
If the photocaption is right ( Holland ), it could be
M.K.B. Zuidzand 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Rockanje 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Westerschouwen 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Oostkappelle 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Westkappele was on a dyke
M.K.B. Cadzand was rearmed from 9.4 to 15 cm
Maybe our Dutch members have some more information ??
Regards Jos
If the photocaption is right ( Holland ), it could be
M.K.B. Zuidzand 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Rockanje 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Westerschouwen 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Oostkappelle 4 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e)
M.K.B. Westkappele was on a dyke
M.K.B. Cadzand was rearmed from 9.4 to 15 cm
Maybe our Dutch members have some more information ??
Regards Jos
Hi Jos,
As you know 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e) armed many MKBs in The Netherlands and France. Knowing that the British emplaced the Vikers guns for AA defenses in the French harbors used by the BEF along the Channel, it makes sense that the guns were taken over by the Kriegsmarine along with the harbors.
Do you know any HKB that used the 9.4 cm Flak M39(e) as well ?
Emmanuel
As you know 9.4 cm Flak M 39 (e) armed many MKBs in The Netherlands and France. Knowing that the British emplaced the Vikers guns for AA defenses in the French harbors used by the BEF along the Channel, it makes sense that the guns were taken over by the Kriegsmarine along with the harbors.
Do you know any HKB that used the 9.4 cm Flak M39(e) as well ?
Emmanuel
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hi all, i dont know if it's the same , but according to the kriegsgliederung 3.3.1944
mkb FALGA was also armed with 4 X 9,4 vickers armstrong (flak).
i dont think it could be zuidzand, i've seen some pictures of the 671, and the scharten don't look the same :roll:
the hight of the dunes and the shape of the 671 looks like FALGA, and on the last picture one can see an open emplacement like there were 2 in batterie falga...
but than again it could be anywere!
gr, tim
mkb FALGA was also armed with 4 X 9,4 vickers armstrong (flak).
i dont think it could be zuidzand, i've seen some pictures of the 671, and the scharten don't look the same :roll:
the hight of the dunes and the shape of the 671 looks like FALGA, and on the last picture one can see an open emplacement like there were 2 in batterie falga...
but than again it could be anywere!
gr, tim
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Hello,jopaerya wrote:Hello David
That is intresting that the French Army operated 20 x 9.4 cm Flak M 39
I and Sebastien Haule found photo's of 9.4 cm in 1940 in Le Havre , these
could be operated by the French Army ??? Do you have any information
were the 20 guns were deployed ???
Regards Jos
I have not many additional details but I confirm the French use of these guns, according to the very good books of Stéphane Ferrard.
In 1939 the French had no modern AA gun able to reach targets flying at altitudes of 8,000 meters or higher. In Septmeber 1939, the French Navy especially issued 90mm (90mm Mle1926/1930 and Mle1928/1931) and 100mm batteries for the protection of strategic points, mainly in the Paris area.
In the French-British exchange, the French gave 220 25mm AT guns to the British and the French recveived about 20 94mm AA guns and a few dozens of Boys AT rifles.
That helped to wait for the canon CA 90mm Mle1939 (Schneider).
The 94mm AA guns formed 5 AA batteries but their exact history is unknown. They were probably deployed around Paris. The French could not obtain more of these guns and tried also to have the Vickers factories producing the 90mm Mle1939 Schneider AA gun to speed up the number of operational guns ... also without success.
Regards,
David
Thanks David
As allways great information , here some more information about the 90 mm Mle1926/1930 and Mle1928/1931 and one photo is from a 90 mm at Paris . http://sudwall.superforum.fr/l-artiller ... -t1140.htm
Regards Jos
As allways great information , here some more information about the 90 mm Mle1926/1930 and Mle1928/1931 and one photo is from a 90 mm at Paris . http://sudwall.superforum.fr/l-artiller ... -t1140.htm
Regards Jos
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