German Coastal Artillery

[jopaerya]

Yes Marcus

I would replaced Narvik in Engeloy .

Regards Jos

[Marcus]

Thanks again.

/Marcus

[jopaerya]

Looks likes this picture is taken at Otschakow , the gun was relocated at M.K.B. von der Goltz ( Crimea ).
Please see page 5

Photo = Ebay

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Here the 20.3 cm (r) breech ( Vickers ) from the M.K.B. von der Goltz , photo is from Ebay .

Regards Jos

[Janef]

Has anybody identified this German Coastal Battery? Enclosed is one of a series of pictures from Bundesarchiv.
The gun displayed is a 15 cm SKC/28 in a gun housing resembling those on the Deutschland/Lützow class.

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[Janef]

Has anybody identified this German Coastal Battery? Enclosed is one of a series of pictures from Bundesarchiv.
The gun displayed is a 15 cm SKC/28 in a gun housing resembling those on the Deutschland/Lützow class.

I had a closer look at the rest of the series, which concluded with a picture of an entrance to a tunnel system. That exists nowadays, so the battery is Vineta in Holland. The gun is a Rheinmetal-Borsig produced 15 cm SKC/28 in 15 cm Kst.MPLC/36 (first version based on the MPLC/28 open back turret). The gun was actually produced by order of the German company HAPRO for sale to China. Mounted at the Vineta battery in nowadays Poland in 1939 and moved west to Holland 1940/41.

JEF

[der bunkermann]

Funny, because that was my first thougt to..
I have seen other pictures of vineta with the same camouflage support over it.

Is it possible to place a link to the other pictures?

Gr, Tim

[Janef]

Go to: https://www.bild.bundesarchiv.de/
Type Alarmübung in the search block and fill out to/from with 1940 / 1945.
Then the series from film 196 pops up.
JEF

[YC Chen]

Has anybody identified this German Coastal Battery? Enclosed is one of a series of pictures from Bundesarchiv.
The gun displayed is a 15 cm SKC/28 in a gun housing resembling those on the Deutschland/Lützow class.

I had a closer look at the rest of the series, which concluded with a picture of an entrance to a tunnel system. That exists nowadays, so the battery is Vineta in Holland. The gun is a Rheinmetal-Borsig produced 15 cm SKC/28 in 15 cm Kst.MPLC/36 (first version based on the MPLC/28 open back turret). The gun was actually produced by order of the German company HAPRO for sale to China. Mounted at the Vineta battery in nowadays Poland in 1939 and moved west to Holland 1940/41.

JEF

That's very interesting... In fact some of those guns did go to China and appear on batteries along lower Yangtze. See here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&start=30

[Janef]

That's very interesting... In fact some of those guns did go to China and appear on batteries along lower Yangtze. See here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 7&start=30

Yes, the Japanese Intelligence report shows a 15 cm SKC/28.
I have looked a little into the production of the 15 cm SKC/28. Rheinmetall did all the production for ships and the 0-series of guns in Kst.MPLC/36. After that the further production of guns in Kst.MPLC/36 was ordered at Skoda-Werke in Pilsen. (40+40+100).

After the last gun for the Tirpitz was produced (No. 1063), Rheinmetall started on a 8 gun 0-series (Nos 1064-1071). The gun on the picture from China is probably No 1066. There is some evidence that the four first guns of this series actually were delivered to China. The rest of the series probably ended up in the Coastal Battery M I in France in 1940.
After the 0-series, first part, Rheinmetall started the production of the Graf Zeppelin guns (1072 - 1087), quickly followed by a series of guns (1088 - 1095) ordered by HAPRO, intended for China. This was newer delivered and were in 1939 used for Batterie Holtzendorff, Borkum and Batterie Vineta, Swinemünde. Both these batteries were transferred during WW II, Holtzendorff to Brest and Vineta to Holland. The four guns at Vineta (1092-1095) were transferred to Denmark after the war, and three of these came to Norway as a part of a Norwegian-Danish deal in 1959. The last one, no 1094, is now at display at the parking lot of Cold War Museum Langelandsfort.
The barrels received by Norway were kept as spare barrels for operational 15 cm batteries, and I had the No. 1092 as "my" spare barrel. It was scrapped in the mid 90-ies.
Of all operational 15 cm SKC/28 guns in Norway (20 guns), 16 were produced by Skoda-Werke, only the four ex-Graf Zeppelin guns were produced by Rheinmetall. The highest serial number found in Norway was No. 1312. The operational guns at Langelandsfort (Nos. 1461-1464) were from the last, and sligtly modified, series from Skoda-Werke. The modification is a altered design of the rear part of the gun (Bodenstück) and an altered and more secure correction device for the binocular.

JEF

[der bunkermann]

so actually one of the guns that stood at Vineta still excist in Denmark?
a picture would be very nice!!

gr, Tim

[TH]

a picture would be very nice!!

Pictures can be found here:
http://www.langelandsfortet.dk/150mm_kanon_dk.htm

[jopaerya]

Very interesting discussion about the 15 cm S.K.C/28 , here the gun numbers of B. Brommy .

Regards Jos

[Janef]

Very interesting discussion about the 15 cm S.K.C/28 , here the gun numbers of B. Brommy .

Regards Jos

Yes, these guns are part of the 28 guns for the 14 twin turrets (6 long and 8 short) under construction at Rheinmetall at the outbreak of the war for the ships "H", "J", "M" and "N". All construction of the ships were halted, and a discussion arose on the use of the completed guns of the production. 4 short turrets were used for Lüderits on Sylt and Zenker on Borkum. These were operational autumn 1940.

Of the remaining stock 8 guns (with cradle only) were used in France in VPL (Vorder-Pivot-Lafette). (Brommy, later Landemer and Le Coubre).

For the rest of the guns very little seems to be documented, apart for the two turrets under construction on the Nurmensätti peninsula on the west side of the entrance to Petsamo fjord in 1944.

The available 15 cm guns from Gneisenau were, as already discussed on the forum, distributed with two turrets (odd serial numbers, port battery) to Fanö, Denmark - now at Stevnsfort. (These turrets were shortened at Rheinmetall before use at Fanö). The two other turrets (even serial numbers, starboard battery) made its way to Holland in original shape as long turrets. At least one of the guns from Holland (no 1008) is documented present on a danish naval yard some years ago (now scrapped).

The four single 15 cm SKC/28 in MPLC/35 from Gneisenau was set up at Wangerooge.

JEF

[Natter]

so actually one of the guns that stood at Vineta still excist in Denmark?
a picture would be very nice!!

Some photos from my visit to Langelandsfortet in 2013: