Vf 4.7cm Pak K 36(t) bunker
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Nice camo, but that thing hanging out of the scharte looks very sick!! Like a body with no legs climbing out legs first
Gr, tim
Gr, tim
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The one at Dunkirk (Stp Eduard - near Ecluse Watier), based on measurements taken last year by Dirk P., JP (French forum) and me. (gunmodel skoda by Fingerz on SketchUp)
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nice Jean
Re: Vf 4.7cm Pak K 36(t) bunker
There is another picture of this bunker with a larger view of the surroundings on page 182 of “Atlantikwall: Mythe ou Réalité” by Alain Chazette.jopaerya wrote:A 4.7 cm Pak K.36 (t) in Le Havre ( Place Clemenceau ) Wn. 08 , photo is from Ebay .
Regards Jos
Emmanuel
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After the study we made about the VF LAG which must be called FA instead of a VF
i ll see that this VF Skoda as everyone calls it is many times no really to the standard thickness of 1 meter
So can we still call this bunkertype a VF Skoda or must we reconsider it and change it to FA Skoda (or behelsmassige Skoda?) ?
also this bunkertpe is from april1942 .... or maybe earlier
what are your opinions about it ?
Dirk
i ll see that this VF Skoda as everyone calls it is many times no really to the standard thickness of 1 meter
So can we still call this bunkertype a VF Skoda or must we reconsider it and change it to FA Skoda (or behelsmassige Skoda?) ?
also this bunkertpe is from april1942 .... or maybe earlier
what are your opinions about it ?
Dirk
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Re: Vf 4.7cm Pak K 36(t) bunker
Dirk that is correct .
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thanks Jos
FA is for Felsmassige Ausbau of course
FA is this a good shortcut you think ?
Dirk
FA is for Felsmassige Ausbau of course
FA is this a good shortcut you think ?
Dirk
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We had a discussion before where we concluded that the shortcut FA was nowhere to be found in german documents.. only the word feldmässige bau or feldmässige bauwerk and so on.
Maybe now it's found by someone?
Some tobruks 80 cm are also VF, and some of the skoda bunkers have 1 or more meter walls
To make it easyer..
Gr, Tim
Maybe now it's found by someone?
Some tobruks 80 cm are also VF, and some of the skoda bunkers have 1 or more meter walls
To make it easyer..
Gr, Tim
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Yes these skodas are mostly 50 a 80 cm thick
some are 1 meter and one is 2 meter
and FA i ll never seen on any document (or i forgot it)
sometimes 40 cm concrete with iron in it is also named VF
but if its only Stampfbeton than it is Felsmassige bau
Dirk
some are 1 meter and one is 2 meter
and FA i ll never seen on any document (or i forgot it)
sometimes 40 cm concrete with iron in it is also named VF
but if its only Stampfbeton than it is Felsmassige bau
Dirk
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It's maybe a bit offropic bu I'm 100% sure that i have read in a german document ( i think neue westwall period 88 A.K) the following term: feldmaßiger ausbau in beton (or stahlbeton).. maybe that is the key to the thin walled concrete bunkers??
I have seached my ass of, but cant find the damn document anymore.
I have seached my ass of, but cant find the damn document anymore.
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This of Help Bunkermann ?
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Hi Dirk, it was "feldmassige werken" in beton.
So thinwalled bunkers (the 40 cm ones?) In beton.
That was why i was so happy finding it.. but my archive is a big mess
So thinwalled bunkers (the 40 cm ones?) In beton.
That was why i was so happy finding it.. but my archive is a big mess
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Of course a Tobruk is 40 cm and this is also called VF
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and here our VF8
also Verstarkt Felsmassig but 40 cm concrete
also Verstarkt Felsmassig but 40 cm concrete