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German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

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German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby daveh on 24 May 2008 15:59

As another way of trying to establish accurate figures for the number of artillery pieces used by the Belgian in the 18 day campaign I now turn to the question of the number of artillery pieces of Belgian origin used by, or distributed by the Germans, after May 28th 1940.

For example

listed as in service 01-03--1944. (viewtopic.php?f=70&t=97577&hilit=+belgian)

7.5 cm FK 235 (b) (ex-belgian M-05 TR, Krupp design of 1905)…………………………….154

7,5 FK 235 (b) ex Belgian modernised Krupps M-05.…………………………….......... 140-200?
Hungary bought/received or was supposed to receive these for their Second Army on the Don in 1942

Were these guns delivered and if so how many?

In the post BMH on Bulgaria, Part 1 viewtopic.php?f=4&t=137784

Is the following quote:
In 1942 Bulgaria began to receive increasingly large shipments, including 180 Belgian light field howitzers with ammunition.

Can anyone identify the model of gun or guns involved?. I assume they were 75mm guns and/or 105 mm howitzers but would like full details.

Further examples of use by, or exports by, the Germans of Belgian artillery pieces would be very interesting. I have for example seen the details given in http://www.nuav.net/ndWW2.html which have helped with details on the Belgian designed and produced 120mm and 155mm pieces.

Thanks in advance
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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby nuyt on 28 May 2008 23:11

HUngary received also the 47mm anti-tank guns, that were towed by horses in the Magyar's case...
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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby dibo on 10 Jun 2008 13:34

Is the following quote:
In 1942 Bulgaria began to receive increasingly large shipments, including 180 Belgian light field howitzers with ammunition.
Can anyone identify the model of gun or guns involved?. I assume they were 75mm guns and/or 105 mm howitzers but would like full details.


I think I have the data. Will post tonight.
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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby dibo on 10 Jun 2008 19:13

dibo wrote:
Is the following quote:
In 1942 Bulgaria began to receive increasingly large shipments, including 180 Belgian light field howitzers with ammunition.
Can anyone identify the model of gun or guns involved?. I assume they were 75mm guns and/or 105 mm howitzers but would like full details.


I think I have the data. Will post tonight.


Yes - in 1942 delivered 105mm howitzers b. Ob. 105 GP for the divisional arty regiments. Known also as Obusier de 105 GP, lFH 327 (b), lFH16

22 calibre, 1490 kg., 9000 m., 5-6 shots per min., 430 m./s. 16 kg. shell

Attached is a photo from our military museum.
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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby daveh on 11 Jun 2008 11:41

Thanks very much for the information and pic dibo
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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby Brossel on 15 Jun 2008 12:58

Dibo nice find!

You probably have one of the last (the last?) remaining belgian 105mm GP. In which museum did you picture it?

I have been looking for detailled pictures of that one for a very long time.
May I ask you to take the maximum of high res pictures of that gun (walkaround) and send them to me? It really intest me. If its possible I ll send you my email adres by PM.
Thanks in advance.
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Postby peeved on 26 Jan 2013 21:08

Belgian 47 mm in Hungarian use. Photo from exp. eBay.de auction http://cgi.ebay.de/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?Vie ... 0721639641

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Re: German/ Axis use of Belgian artillery

Postby assfort on 27 Jan 2013 00:06

Hello,
quoting from an excellent book by F. Cappellano, in 1943 Germans provided the Regio Esercito Italiano with 38 TR former Belgian Krupp guns, used mainly in Sardinia for the equipment of roadblocks and coastal fortifications.
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