Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Sturm78 » 09 Feb 2011, 10:55

Thank you very much for your answer, Jopaerya. :D

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by kstdk » 09 Feb 2011, 21:20

Hello

Some images from "Panzers in The Gunsights":

1: Rheinmetal Proving Ground Panzer 38 (t)

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by kstdk » 09 Feb 2011, 21:23

Hello

Some more images (same Source as above):

Panzer III and Panzer IV and an Italien P40 from Hillersleben Proving Ground.

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by kstdk » 09 Feb 2011, 21:28

Hello

Last one - Panzer III - Hillersleben Proving Grounds (same source as above):

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by TUS » 12 Feb 2011, 01:30

Hello Kurt

Very nice pics from the I-Platz at Hillersleben. Thanks for sharing. :D

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by kstdk » 12 Feb 2011, 12:32

Hello

Found another one (Panzerwrecks: Source) Photo Caption "One for The Ladies" :lol:

What makes me curious is the text:

"Pz.Pkfw. II (Normalserie) Ausf. F - Bauform 229 Bugpanzerdach"

What does "Bugpanzerdach" means ?? Is it just the Steel plate?

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Roar H » 14 Feb 2011, 00:09

i believe Bugpanzerdach refers to the way of using the whole top of the tank where the turret sits, and incorporate that into the concrete. i could be mistaken..

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by herring » 14 Feb 2011, 12:16

I also think so - top plate of tank with fastened turret, screwed to the concrete.

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Saska » 20 Feb 2011, 19:01

Hello

Source: Ebay

Location and type: No idea.

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 20 Feb 2011, 19:54

PzIV from Berlin.
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Post by Manuferey » 20 Feb 2011, 20:37

Saska wrote:Hello

Source: Ebay

Location and type: No idea.

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Saska,

This is one the thirteen APX2B turrets procured from France and installed by the Belgian Army on the Belgian coast before 1939.

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 20 Feb 2011, 20:52

@ndrew wrote:PzIV from Berlin.
Hi Andrew

To me the photo looks like a knocked out Pz IV, notice the engine decking plates. The angle the photo was taken makes the tank look like it is lower down than I think it is.
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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Andrzej Ditrich » 21 Feb 2011, 00:03

Clive Mortimore wrote:
@ndrew wrote:PzIV from Berlin.
Hi Andrew

To me the photo looks like a knocked out Pz IV, notice the engine decking plates. The angle the photo was taken makes the tank look like it is lower down than I think it is.
Hi Clive,

well I'm pretty sure it's tank from Pz.Komp. 'Berlin' which used except: Panthers,Panthertrums also PzIVs.
PzIV turrets were on tank not on bunkers or other types of buildings: just simply dug-in PzIVs. What convince me is the way how it is placed in this urban area: pointing along the street: it's good way of placing Pak.
It was reported that PzIV tanks with suspension or engine defects were used for static defence purposes. Mayby even without engines like well known Panther on Bismarckstrasse. This empty space could be used as additional ammo store(?).

But to be honest: these are my speculations and any other arguments are welcome :milsmile:

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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Clive Mortimore » 21 Feb 2011, 01:50

Hi Andrew

Makes sense, it could well be a dug in tank. The British used Vickers Mk II Mediums at Mersa Matruh in much the same way.
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Re: Bunkers with tank turrets!

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Post by Sturm78 » 23 Feb 2011, 13:15

Hi all,

An image from Bundesarchive: PzKpfw II turret in France

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