Bunkers with tank turrets!

[Andrzej Ditrich]

Bunker with PzII trurret (modified model) -I guess photo was made in 80'/90'

source:
http://www.network54.com/Forum/47210/th ... la+1+c.k.m.+

[peeved]

Nice,

The version with 37 mm gun?

Markus

[jopaerya]

Looks the F.Pz.D.T. 4804 with 3.7 cm KwK , from this turret there are also a few black and white picture's
could be Żerkowicach ??

Regards Jos

[Andrzej Ditrich]

Yes: it's Żerkowice

[jopaerya]

Thanks Andrzej

[jopaerya]

I am not sure it's a tank turret but who recognize this turret .

Picture's = Ebay

Regards Jos

[StefanSiverud]

I think it's a Soviet MG turret off a pre-war tank design, but I can't find the exact one that's slightly conical, has a round hatch and with the DT MG off to the side. Plenty of turrets matching two of those...

[Andrzej Ditrich]

Looks like BA-20 armoured car

[StefanSiverud]

Looks like BA-20 armoured car

I just arrived at the same conclusion, it's either a BA-20 or possibly FAI armoured car turret.

[jopaerya]

Thank you very much Guys

[jopaerya]

Thank you very much Guys

[forttravel]

Sketch of captured bunker with tank turret (PZ II?) made by Polish Forces in Italy.

[Ondrej Filip]

Sketch of captured bunker with tank turret (PZ II?) made by Polish Forces in Italy.

Interesting sketch. It is a PzKpfw I turret. It could be the "fortress" version - flat front armour, large ventilation holes.

[Lars Bertelsen]

Yes Ondrej, it must be a F.Pz.DT 4803, because of the half-circle-shaped turret hatch, and because normal Pz.I turrets were not issued in Italy. The turret dimensions fit very well too.
The bunker looks a bit strange and is not 100 % identical with a Bauform 231. But very interesting that Ringstände of concrete were build in Italy for this type of turret. Probably in the Gothic Line?
lars

[forttravel]

Probably in the Gothic Line?
lars

Yes Lars, it is a Gothic Line. Polish engineers made also sketches of some field fortifications such as:
Pak 43 Stand
Unterstand
Beobachtungstand
Mörser 81mm Stand
All of them you can see here: http://forttravel.wrzuta.pl/katalog/2Dq6aMRc7Hs