28 cm Mörser 601(f)

[jopaerya]

Hello

Here some picture's of the 28 cm Mörser 601(f) < Mortier de 280 mm Mle 14/16 Schneider >at the Eastern front .
This gun was also placed at tracks and was then called 28 cm Mörser (Sfl) 602 (f) maximun range of the gun was
10.9 k.m. and could fire 1 round every 5 minutes .

Photo's = BaMa Koblenz

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

Here is a picture taken by a US soldier in 1944 at Falaise, France after the battle:



Source: http://www.pbase.com/rhssr/image/169328

The tube on the trailer in the front looks to me like the tube of a 28 cm Mrs 601(f). If it is the case, do you know which German unit used it in Normandy in 1944?

In the background, it looks like a 10,5 cm K290(g). What do you think?

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Hello Emmanuel

I think that you are right about the barrel , the second quistion what unit I realy don't know .

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

A 280 mm Schneider in a prepared emplacement (from ebay.com):



Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

Did found a new picture of this Mörser in German service from Ebay.usa .

Regards Jos

[Manuferey]

It looks like some of the 280 mm models have a pulley underneath the barrel and others don't. Are they actually different variants of the same gun?

Emmanuel

[jopaerya]

From Axis Forum the 28 cm Mörser 601 (f) .

[Luftflotte2]

Here are many more images from wikicommons.

[Luftflotte2]

The rest.

[Leo Niehorster]

It looks like some of the 280 mm models have a pulley underneath the barrel and others don't. Are they actually different variants of the same gun?
Emmanuel

Aren't these pictures of three different types of guns?
Two little wheels:
  → (Manuferey on Sun 13.09.09 – 15:21) A 280 mm Schneider in a prepared emplacement
One little wheel:
  → (jopaerya, 16.12.08 – 14:24) unknown morser 3.jpg
No little wheel(s):
  → (jopaerya on Wed 03.11.10 – 22:23) 28 cm M 601 fr.jpg

[jopaerya]

Could be , there were according to Wikipedia and other sources 40 guns produced for the Imperial Russian Army .
here a picture from a gun in Poland with 3 wheels http://uk.ask.com/wiki/File:Warsaw_280m ... ?qsrc=3044

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

From Ebay three small picture's of this 28 cm Mörser 601 (f)

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Here a photoshoot of the 28 cm Mörser 601 (f) named Gustav as you can see the loads are placed together .

Photo's = Ebay

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

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[ALVF]

Hello,

Some comments on the Mortier de 280 mm TR Schneider:

-they are only two typs of mortars: the first built for Russia and the french typ.In 1914, a french-russian agreement partaged the russian batch, the 8 first built mortars were allocated to France and after more were built, the Russia had his first mortars in 1915.The french and russian typs are near equal, they are some differences in breech and some minors details.
-the "small wheels" noted in a question: these wheels were removed after the mounting of the mortars, their use is for the manoeuvres to assemble in place.
-the wheels of the waggons are of three great typs: first in wood and steel, after all steel and at last all steel with caoutchouc tyres.
-the serial mortars were delivered from the end of 1914 to november 1918, in all 152 mortars 280 mm TR Schneider were built: 126 for France, 26 for Russia.The russian mortars were delivered in 1915-1917 and the delivery was halted with the russian revolution (they were 72 mortars foreseen for Russia).
I have writed a paper with many details and photographs in french review "GBM" edited by "Histoire et Collections" N°97 dated july 2011.
Yours sincerely,
Guy François.