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Re: Id. old gun

Postby schwarzermai on 05 May 2013 13:00

hello

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need types of both guns in front and back

thank you!

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Manuferey on 05 May 2013 13:36

Hello uwe,

The gun on the front is a French 105 mm L Mle 1913 on pneumatic tires.

The gun in the background looks to me like the barrel of a German 15 cm sFH18 gun on a horse-drawn trailer. We can see the small rear wheels of the trailer on the right. I think we can also see part of the carriage of this 15 cm sFH18 behind the 105 mm gun, with the upper recuperator sticking out in the air.

There is also another 105 mm gun behind the previous two guns, only the rear behind the breach is visible including the trail.

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby ain92 on 05 May 2013 13:40

schwarzermai wrote:hello

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need types of both guns in front and back

thank you!

uwe

Hello.
The front one looks like some kind of modernised Schneider 105 mm gun Mle 1913:
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The tire is Dunlop Type Agraire reinforce, so rubber wheels have been added in France.

The poor quality of image doesn't allow me to clearly define the back gun. Could it be BL 6" Mk.VII? What's the place and year of the image?
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Re: Id. old gun

Postby ain92 on 05 May 2013 15:17

Manuferey wrote:Hello uwe,

The gun on the front is a French 105 mm L Mle 1913 on pneumatic tires.

The gun in the background looks to me like the barrel of a German 15 cm sFH18 gun on a horse-drawn trailer. We can see the small rear wheels of the trailer on the right. I think we can also see part of the carriage of this 15 cm sFH18 behind the 105 mm gun, with the upper recuperator sticking out in the air.

There is also another 105 mm gun behind the previous two guns, only the rear behind the breach is visible including the trail.

Emmanuel

You were several minutes ahead of me. =)
1) Do you know the designation of such a modification?
2) Is 1 and 2 the same carriage trasport wagon? How it was called in German?
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Re: Id. old gun

Postby schwarzermai on 05 May 2013 15:43

hello Emmanuel & ain92

thanks for our help!!

photo is from france, i think 1940 (found it in ebay)

here is the gun in the back

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Manuferey on 05 May 2013 22:36

ain92 wrote:1) Do you know the designation of such a modification?


They were actually two kinds of modernized wheels used with the 105 mm gun:
- cast wheels with solid rubber tires
- pressed wheels with pneumatic tires (as on uwe’s picture)

These wheels were similar to the two types of wheels used to modernize the 75 mm Mle 1897 for motorized towing. The gun with solid tires became the 75 mm Mle 1897 modifié 1938 [= modified 1938] while the pneumatic tire version became the 75 Mle 1897 modifié 1938-1940.

I assume that similar designations were used for the 105 mm gun.

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Sturm78 on 06 May 2013 20:21

Hi all,

An image of an 149mm Cannone da 149-35 italian gun. I think the image was taken, probably, after italian surrender

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Sturm78 on 08 May 2013 13:19

Hi all,

A rare image of an 28cm Küstenhaubitze C07 German coastal howitzer:

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Sturm78 on 18 May 2013 15:35

Hi all,

According to photocaption, italian guns during Ethiopia campaign in 1935.
I think the guns are 155mm Mle 1877 guns of french origin. :?

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Re: Id. old gun

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby schwarzermai on 21 May 2013 06:59

hello

is it an 12,2cm s.F.H. 396 (r) ??

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is there a book specially about russian artillery?

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and

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tube of 15,5cm K. (f) ??

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby ain92 on 21 May 2013 15:55

schwarzermai wrote:hello
is it an 12,2cm s.F.H. 396 (r) ??

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is there a book specially about russian artillery?

Hello.
No, it isn't. It's 15,2 cm s.F.H.443(r) aka 152 mm howitzer M-10 M1938 in Russian service.

Yes, I can recommend you several good books, but unfortunately they are all on Russian language. Also I don't recommend you to trust information about Russian artillery published during the Cold War.
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Re: Id. old gun

Postby schwarzermai on 21 May 2013 18:35

hello ain92

thank you - i learned russian language in school ... but forgot most of it....

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby Manuferey on 21 May 2013 23:16

schwarzermai wrote:hello

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tube of 15,5cm K. (f) ??

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thanks uwe


Uwe,

This is a 15 cm K16 from WW1 with its shield. I think the picture was taken in Belgium in May 1940 and shows either a captured gun from the Belgian army or a captured German gun from WW1 placed near a WW1 memorial. :idea:

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Re: Id. old gun

Postby schwarzermai on 22 May 2013 06:44

thank you again, Emmanuel!
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