Late Flak 8,8 cm pictures

[jopaerya]

Hello All

It could be nothing but on this blurry Ebay picture looks there is something on the tipp of barrel ??

Regards Jos

[mkappius]

Yes Jos,
You are right. There is something on the barrel.
Maybe to protect the berrel from rain

Michael

[Manuferey]

Marine Flak?

Emmanuel

[TUS]

Marine Flak?

Emmanuel

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Very nice comment Emmanuel!

Brgds Tønnes

[SASH155]

The few pics that I have...

88mm_Flak36_2.jpg

88mm_Flak36_1.jpg

Lancresse-flak.jpg

The distinctive "follow the pointer" fire direction equipment ("Übertragungsgerät 37") on the mount of the gun in these photos generally indicates a FlaK-37, not the '36, or at the very least a conversion of a FlaK-36 to a '37. The barrel on this example is the one piece version typical of the original FlaK-18, but was used interchangeably on all the models. It was also maintained in production due to its relative ease of manufacture as compared to the more complex three piece ordnance.

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

A static Flak 37 gun:

Image from EBay
Sturm78

[Grzesio]

Well, the neighbouring 10.5 cm Flak thread reminded me of one thing - I think there's one interesting piece here to hunt.

What we could look for is a late version of the two piece 8.8 cm Flak L/56 barrel. I've seen one picture years ago - if I remember correctly, it basically looked like the two piece 10.5 cm Flak barrel - i.e. it had the same general outline as the RA 9 five piece barrel (typical for 8.8 cm Flak 36 and 37), with cylindrical outer jacket, but there was no tensioning nut, just a ring stop (with conical front part) on the inner tube.

PS
I think there were some examples already shown in this thread, but the image quality is not the best and so I'm not sure:
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... ?id=190405
http://forum.axishistory.com/download/f ... ?id=223352

[ErwinZ]

What we could look for is a late version of the two piece 8.8 cm Flak L/56 barrel. I've seen one picture years ago - if I remember correctly, it basically looked like the two piece 10.5 cm Flak barrel - i.e. it had the same general outline as the RA 9 five piece barrel (typical for 8.8 cm Flak 36 and 37), with cylindrical outer jacket, but there was no tensioning nut, just a ring stop (with conical front part) on the inner tube.

Could a 8,8 cm lafette with a 10,5 cm Rohr be an option?

[Grzesio]

The 10.5 cm barrel was too big, I think, approx 1.7 m longer and of greater diameter than 8.8 cm Flak L/56 barrel.
Further, I don't think the 8.8 cm Flak L/56 carriage could handle the 10.5 cm recoil. HE shell of 8.8 cm Flak L/56 had kinetic energy in order of 3.0 MJ. There were already serious problems with adapting the gun for 8.8 cm Flak 41 ammunition, which reached 4.7 MJ (muzzle brake was necessary, and the final effect was still far from perfect) - and 10.5 cm Flak HE shell had even greater energy of 5.8 MJ.
But there was an opposite idea at some time, to mount 8.8 cm Flak 41 barrels on 10.5 cm Flak carriages. It never eventually came beyond conceptual stage.

[ErwinZ]

I thought it was rather unlikely. However I found a reference in a KTB that they changed Rohrs from 88 to 105. Probably they ment the whole gun instead of the Rohrs.

[Grzesio]

Couldn't it be naval guns?
E.g. 10.5 cm SK C/32 were mounted on 8.8 cm naval carriages indeed.

[ErwinZ]

Actually it was a Marine Flak Batterie. So it was possible? Which 88 lafatte was suitable for such a change?

[Grzesio]

Well, I know just about nothing on naval guns, but for example both the 8.8 cm SK C/30 and the 10.5 cm SK C/32 could be mounted in the 8,8 cm MPL C/30 carriage.
Maybe there was a possibility of changing a barrel/cradle with some minimal (or at least acceptable) amount of other changes (sights, equlibrators, fuse setter etc.)?

[der bunkermann]

Hi,
maybe it's not the right topic, but who can confirm if this is a part of the 8.8 centimeter FlaK (36)?
i think it's the thing under the barrel.. who knows the function if this part?
it's about 2.40 meters long, i have more pictures if needed

edit: looks like this part:

gr, Tim

[Clive Mortimore]

Hi,
maybe it's not the right topic, but who can confirm if this is a part of the 8.8 centimeter FlaK (36)?
i think it's the thing under the barrel.. who knows the function if this part?
it's about 2.40 meters long, i have more pictures if needed

edit: looks like this part:

gr, Tim

Hi Tim

The part you have circled in the photo of the knocked out 8.8 cm is the recoil buffer.

Clive