I need help to Id mortar
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Hi all,
Can anyone identify this mortar ??
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Sturm78
Can anyone identify this mortar ??
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Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi All,
I suggest that it might be a German 17cm Medium Trench Mortar, Model 1914. This is only a guess and is based on the similarity to one displayed on Flickr. The source is https://www.flickr.com/photos/sarge_schultz/2352958003/ which shows a photo of this 1914 model minenwerfer taken at Duxford.
Regards,
Draoich
I suggest that it might be a German 17cm Medium Trench Mortar, Model 1914. This is only a guess and is based on the similarity to one displayed on Flickr. The source is https://www.flickr.com/photos/sarge_schultz/2352958003/ which shows a photo of this 1914 model minenwerfer taken at Duxford.
Regards,
Draoich
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi!Draoich wrote:Hi All,
I suggest that it might be a German 17cm Medium Trench Mortar, Model 1914. This is only a guess and is based on the similarity to one displayed on Flickr. The source is https://www.flickr.com/photos/sarge_schultz/2352958003/ which shows a photo of this 1914 model minenwerfer taken at Duxford.
Regards,
Draoich
Very interesting, mortar from the museum Duxford differs from mortar 17cm mMW
http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgar ... MW_new.htm
http://www.bulgarianartillery.it/Bulgar ... MW_old.htm
Or am I mistaken?????
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Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hello Karlik
these are 3 different mortars - all are "Mittlere Minenwerfer" but
1. = Museum = Modell 1914
2. = your 1st link = m.M.W. 16 L/4,5
3. = your 2nd link = m.M.W. 16 a/A L/3,8
Uwe
these are 3 different mortars - all are "Mittlere Minenwerfer" but
1. = Museum = Modell 1914
2. = your 1st link = m.M.W. 16 L/4,5
3. = your 2nd link = m.M.W. 16 a/A L/3,8
Uwe
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=223633
My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Thank you!schwarzermai wrote:Hello Karlik
these are 3 different mortars - all are "Mittlere Minenwerfer" but
1. = Museum = Modell 1914
2. = your 1st link = m.M.W. 16 L/4,5
3. = your 2nd link = m.M.W. 16 a/A L/3,8
Uwe
But what kind of mortar Modell 1914? The first time such an encounter, this experimental model?
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hello
for download
ediss.sub.uni-hamburg.de/volltexte/2013/6126/pdf/Dissertation.pdf
Uwe
for download
ediss.sub.uni-hamburg.de/volltexte/2013/6126/pdf/Dissertation.pdf
Uwe
viewtopic.php?f=19&t=223633
My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
My Bookproject: "Organisationsgeschichte der deutschen Heeresartillerie im II. Weltkrieg"
http://balsi.de/Heeresartillerie/
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Ummmhhh......I am not sure about a 17cm caliber mortar.
Note the size of the shells around 15cm of caliber or less.....
On the other hand, Is this an 8cm s.Gr.Wfr.34 ?
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Sturm78
Note the size of the shells around 15cm of caliber or less.....
On the other hand, Is this an 8cm s.Gr.Wfr.34 ?
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Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Nobody for my last questions ??
Well, here another image from EBay. Can somebody identify these mortars ??
Sturm78
Well, here another image from EBay. Can somebody identify these mortars ??
Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
I enjoyed the history about this mortar. However I have two questions: Was this mortar used by Finland against Russia Next is a technical one: are these legal in the United States in their original condition?
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi All,
In response to Sturm78's last post on the 5th.' of August, I would guess that the mortars shown are French. They are definitely standard Brandt' model mortars (refer to Sight attachment mortice), both a 60mm in the foreground and several 81mm mortars behind. The ammunition boxes do not seem to be American so that leads me to think that these are French Mle. 27/31's and 60mm Mle. 1935.
In response to gjcm31946, I think you must have intended to post a photo as well?
Regards,
Draoich
In response to Sturm78's last post on the 5th.' of August, I would guess that the mortars shown are French. They are definitely standard Brandt' model mortars (refer to Sight attachment mortice), both a 60mm in the foreground and several 81mm mortars behind. The ammunition boxes do not seem to be American so that leads me to think that these are French Mle. 27/31's and 60mm Mle. 1935.
In response to gjcm31946, I think you must have intended to post a photo as well?
Regards,
Draoich
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Thank you, Draoich
Any idea about the mortar of my post number 247 of 30 Jul ??
Regards Sturm78
Any idea about the mortar of my post number 247 of 30 Jul ??
Regards Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi All,
In response to Sturm78's post No.' 247 on the 30th.' of July, I would guess that the mortar shown is a German 8cm GrW 34. It may be an 10cm NbW 35 but I don't think it is. The mortar bomb being held in the 'Laden' position looks too slim to be a 10cm bomb although this method of gauging the ammunition calibre can be deceptive.
Regards,
Draoich
In response to Sturm78's post No.' 247 on the 30th.' of July, I would guess that the mortar shown is a German 8cm GrW 34. It may be an 10cm NbW 35 but I don't think it is. The mortar bomb being held in the 'Laden' position looks too slim to be a 10cm bomb although this method of gauging the ammunition calibre can be deceptive.
Regards,
Draoich
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi all,
Any idea about the mortar in the center of the image ?? 81mm Wz.31 polish mortar ??
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Sturm78
Any idea about the mortar in the center of the image ?? 81mm Wz.31 polish mortar ??
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Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi all,
I think a rare 10cm Nebelwerfer 35 mortar:
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Sturm78
I think a rare 10cm Nebelwerfer 35 mortar:
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Sturm78
Re: I need help to Id mortar
Hi all,
I have some doubts about this mortar in Finnish service. 81mm M29/34 swedish mortar ???
Images from SA-Kuva archive
Thanks in advance. Sturm78
I have some doubts about this mortar in Finnish service. 81mm M29/34 swedish mortar ???
Images from SA-Kuva archive
Thanks in advance. Sturm78