15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello
In the Sudwall there was a M.K.B. Semaphore with 3 x 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst.Rad.Lafette (t) .
I know the W.W. 1 conversion of the 15 cm S.K.L/40 but who has heard of this conversion
a naval barrel on a Skoda lafette .
Photo = Brutus from Sudwall forum
Regards Jos
In the Sudwall there was a M.K.B. Semaphore with 3 x 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst.Rad.Lafette (t) .
I know the W.W. 1 conversion of the 15 cm S.K.L/40 but who has heard of this conversion
a naval barrel on a Skoda lafette .
Photo = Brutus from Sudwall forum
Regards Jos
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Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello Jos ,
Thank you for surpricing news !! Have seen the 15 cm K 15/16 (t) for many years ,but
overlooked the hybrid . You are rignt the orginal Skoda 15 cm Autokanone M15 + M15/16
have a Flachkeil . The new 15 cm S.K. L/40 gun barrel have a Rundkeil . Question Jos ,
when you replace the 152 mm Skoda gun barrel with a 149,1 mm German naval gun barrel
S.K.L/ 40 why do not you fire 149,1 mm naval shells ????
Tries a provional history ( may contain translation /interpretion errors )
- Pr 1918 the Skoda have 44 x 15 cm Autokanone gun barrels + 43 gun carriages .
- 30 x guns were completed under Italian control ( Cappellano page 155 - 157 )
- The remaing gun parts were sent to Austria + Czechoslovakia + Germany ( Cappellano )
- 2 x guns ended up in Austria ( Urrisk page 99 - 101 + Grestenberger page 128 )
- 11 x guns ( to Germany ? ) 11 x guns of hybrid with Rundkeil mention in Mr .Chazettes new
book Südwall page 30
Regards
ludvig
Thank you for surpricing news !! Have seen the 15 cm K 15/16 (t) for many years ,but
overlooked the hybrid . You are rignt the orginal Skoda 15 cm Autokanone M15 + M15/16
have a Flachkeil . The new 15 cm S.K. L/40 gun barrel have a Rundkeil . Question Jos ,
when you replace the 152 mm Skoda gun barrel with a 149,1 mm German naval gun barrel
S.K.L/ 40 why do not you fire 149,1 mm naval shells ????
Tries a provional history ( may contain translation /interpretion errors )
- Pr 1918 the Skoda have 44 x 15 cm Autokanone gun barrels + 43 gun carriages .
- 30 x guns were completed under Italian control ( Cappellano page 155 - 157 )
- The remaing gun parts were sent to Austria + Czechoslovakia + Germany ( Cappellano )
- 2 x guns ended up in Austria ( Urrisk page 99 - 101 + Grestenberger page 128 )
- 11 x guns ( to Germany ? ) 11 x guns of hybrid with Rundkeil mention in Mr .Chazettes new
book Südwall page 30
Regards
ludvig
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello Jos,
thank you for this interesting information. When I visited this gun on the camping site I noticed for sure its german origin by the Krupp sign, but completely overlooked its foreign Lafette.
Do you have a picture of the original Skoda gun in this Lafette?
Greetings
Daniel
thank you for this interesting information. When I visited this gun on the camping site I noticed for sure its german origin by the Krupp sign, but completely overlooked its foreign Lafette.
Do you have a picture of the original Skoda gun in this Lafette?
Greetings
Daniel
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello Daniel
Here some picture's in Czech service , middle of the page
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... 192&page=2
These are photo's form the gun in Italian service
http://www.italie1935-45.com/RE/photosc ... 52-37.html
Regards Jos
P.S. Ludvig , strange is that a German map indicated that the guns at M.K.B. Semaphore
could fire 21.5 k.m. , the original 15 cm S.K.L/40 could only fire 14.8 k.m. ( rebored ???? )
The 15 cm K 15/16 (t) had a max. range of 21.8 k.m.
Here some picture's in Czech service , middle of the page
http://www.militaryphotos.net/forums/sh ... 192&page=2
These are photo's form the gun in Italian service
http://www.italie1935-45.com/RE/photosc ... 52-37.html
Regards Jos
P.S. Ludvig , strange is that a German map indicated that the guns at M.K.B. Semaphore
could fire 21.5 k.m. , the original 15 cm S.K.L/40 could only fire 14.8 k.m. ( rebored ???? )
The 15 cm K 15/16 (t) had a max. range of 21.8 k.m.
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello Jos,
thanks a lot!
Daniel
thanks a lot!
Daniel
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello
I can't find any information on this gun , it's a one off a kind
gun or are there more ????? Who can help me please ?
Regards Jos
P.S. Daniel were there any numbers on the gun with the three rings ??
I can't find any information on this gun , it's a one off a kind
gun or are there more ????? Who can help me please ?
Regards Jos
P.S. Daniel were there any numbers on the gun with the three rings ??
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello
I think that I have found a other M.K.B. equipped with this gun the
M.K.B. Portzic I with also 3 x 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Rad. Lafette . So we
have now found 6 of these guns .
Regards Jos
I think that I have found a other M.K.B. equipped with this gun the
M.K.B. Portzic I with also 3 x 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Rad. Lafette . So we
have now found 6 of these guns .
Regards Jos
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Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello
Transport of the Rad Lafette of this gun in Brest , behind the gun you can see a naval officer .
Photo = ECPA Paris
Regards Jos
Transport of the Rad Lafette of this gun in Brest , behind the gun you can see a naval officer .
Photo = ECPA Paris
Regards Jos
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Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
There was 3 batteries of 149/37, 10 guns total in Pola in WW2. I think they are this guns 15 cm S.K.L/40
The Army 152/37 was Skoda 15 cm Autokanone M. 15/16. not this.
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/ne ... 5_info.htm
The Army 152/37 was Skoda 15 cm Autokanone M. 15/16. not this.
http://www.landships.freeservers.com/ne ... 5_info.htm
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hello
Any idea on these guns 15 cm S.K.L/40 or 15 cm K 15/16 (t) ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Any idea on these guns 15 cm S.K.L/40 or 15 cm K 15/16 (t) ??
Photo = Ebay
Regards Jos
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Jos,
For me, it’s a 15 cm M15/16 Skoda/15 cm K15/16(t), based on the features of the barrel in the red squares below. The same area of the barrel on the 15 cm SK L/40 looks different.
Emmanuel
For me, it’s a 15 cm M15/16 Skoda/15 cm K15/16(t), based on the features of the barrel in the red squares below. The same area of the barrel on the 15 cm SK L/40 looks different.
Emmanuel
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Thanks Emmanuel
You are right it's a 15 cm K 15/16 (t) , I see it now .
Regards Jos
You are right it's a 15 cm K 15/16 (t) , I see it now .
Regards Jos
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Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
Hi All
Another thing I noticed between the two, was the Skoda barrel has a small bell at the muzzel. This is not present on the Krupp one.
Clive
Another thing I noticed between the two, was the Skoda barrel has a small bell at the muzzel. This is not present on the Krupp one.
Clive
Clive
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
As you can see the lighthouse of Portzic , the gun under the netting must be the 15 cm S.K.L/40
must be early in the war , open emplacement and wooden observation post no M 157 and 669sk yet .
Regards Jos
must be early in the war , open emplacement and wooden observation post no M 157 and 669sk yet .
Regards Jos
Re: 15 cm S.K.L/40 in Küst. Rad. Lafette (t)
If this guns are the Italian 149/37 i have a little more information from Italian side but it is still very confusing:
14x 149/37 guns in Pola in 4 batteries.
Then i have also XLVII gruppo cannoni pesanti da posizione da 149/37 in 14ºRaggruppamento GAF.
So more than 10 guns i had information about. If they are the same model.
In Italian side they are called Skoda 149/37 M 95 e M 97 and also SK-1896 which is between 95 and 97...
I also i have 10km range with 690m/s which seems low.
14x 149/37 guns in Pola in 4 batteries.
Then i have also XLVII gruppo cannoni pesanti da posizione da 149/37 in 14ºRaggruppamento GAF.
So more than 10 guns i had information about. If they are the same model.
In Italian side they are called Skoda 149/37 M 95 e M 97 and also SK-1896 which is between 95 and 97...
I also i have 10km range with 690m/s which seems low.