Door to identify
Door to identify
Hello everybody,
Today we opened a 117a in Belgium that was closed for at least 40 years and among all the classical doors we can find inside such a bunker, we found this door closing the "Nah-verteidigung raum". I can not find it in the Panzeratlas but I must confess I'm not so an expert in that matter. Who can help? The door is 30mm thick.
PS: Jos, I answer your question before you ask it to me: Ost-W 011-219
Gr.
Pierrot
Today we opened a 117a in Belgium that was closed for at least 40 years and among all the classical doors we can find inside such a bunker, we found this door closing the "Nah-verteidigung raum". I can not find it in the Panzeratlas but I must confess I'm not so an expert in that matter. Who can help? The door is 30mm thick.
PS: Jos, I answer your question before you ask it to me: Ost-W 011-219
Gr.
Pierrot
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Re: Door to identify
Hi Pierrot,pierrot wrote:.....was closed for at least 40 years .....,
I have no idea, for me it looks at the typical marine doors. But maybe you will post more (other) pictures. I'm very curious.
g,Ruud
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Hello Pierre
Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks .
Regards Jos
Thanks Thanks Thanks Thanks .
Regards Jos
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Hello Pierrot
I don't have the awnser but here a list of the gasdoors .
Regards Jos
I don't have the awnser but here a list of the gasdoors .
Regards Jos
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Hallo Jos and Rupo,
I checked already the Panzeratlas on the website of Arthur (AvB), but I didn't find it. Normally, between the Nah-verteidigung raum and the rest of the bunker, we find a thick armored door, very often it's a 434P01 like the ones I find in the gasschleuse of this bunker. Now I check again my pictures and I notice that the door closing the periscope room was most probably of the same kind (the door is missing but the hinges are similars, see pic hereunder). Btw, there was no periscope fitted in this particular bunker.
Almost all the doors are still present, including some small electrical fittings, some nice technical texts and some slogans (of poems) executed with the pencil (see one of them hereunder), also a nice pinup girl has been drawn on the wall.
This bunker is still on military ground and the brick building on top (also build by the Germans) is still in use today by the Army, but the 117a has been closed up in the 60's (we find a wine bottle from 1960 inside) and I had to ask a special permission through High Ranking of the Army to be able to break up the bricked up entrance. The bunker's entrance has been bricked up again after the visit as requested by the militaries.
Greetings
Pierrot
I checked already the Panzeratlas on the website of Arthur (AvB), but I didn't find it. Normally, between the Nah-verteidigung raum and the rest of the bunker, we find a thick armored door, very often it's a 434P01 like the ones I find in the gasschleuse of this bunker. Now I check again my pictures and I notice that the door closing the periscope room was most probably of the same kind (the door is missing but the hinges are similars, see pic hereunder). Btw, there was no periscope fitted in this particular bunker.
Almost all the doors are still present, including some small electrical fittings, some nice technical texts and some slogans (of poems) executed with the pencil (see one of them hereunder), also a nice pinup girl has been drawn on the wall.
This bunker is still on military ground and the brick building on top (also build by the Germans) is still in use today by the Army, but the 117a has been closed up in the 60's (we find a wine bottle from 1960 inside) and I had to ask a special permission through High Ranking of the Army to be able to break up the bricked up entrance. The bunker's entrance has been bricked up again after the visit as requested by the militaries.
Greetings
Pierrot
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Nice Pic's Thanks!
A link to some navy doors; http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/al ... _index.pdf
g,Ruud
A link to some navy doors; http://home.tiscali.nl/bunkerarchief/al ... _index.pdf
g,Ruud
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Great text too!
This door is quite common but I haven't found any plan of it yet.
Another example is in the 502 behind the hotel at Zoutelande.
But I've found it all over Europe..
Some sort of Luftschutz door?
This door is quite common but I haven't found any plan of it yet.
Another example is in the 502 behind the hotel at Zoutelande.
But I've found it all over Europe..
Some sort of Luftschutz door?
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Thanks Arthur for your comments,
There are more pictures of our visit on the website of my friend Buran : http://atlanticwallbelgiumboulogne.110m ... lkerke.htm
Greetings
Pierrot
There are more pictures of our visit on the website of my friend Buran : http://atlanticwallbelgiumboulogne.110m ... lkerke.htm
Greetings
Pierrot
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Re: Door to identify
Hi,
for me it looks like those ones, which were used in the bunkers of the LVZ- West (Luftverteidigungszone West) behind the Westwall. Those Bunker- Line with AA- Emplacements, Crew Rooms and Earth Defense was build by the Luftwaffe and the Regelbauten of this programm are similar to some of the Heeres- Regelbauten of the westwall. Only the "Panzerteile" (armoured parts) were a own projekt by the Luftwaffe. So we have other doors, Schartenplatten and so on. The LVZ was built in from 1938 to 1940
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Markus
Pics are from Peter Waltje
for me it looks like those ones, which were used in the bunkers of the LVZ- West (Luftverteidigungszone West) behind the Westwall. Those Bunker- Line with AA- Emplacements, Crew Rooms and Earth Defense was build by the Luftwaffe and the Regelbauten of this programm are similar to some of the Heeres- Regelbauten of the westwall. Only the "Panzerteile" (armoured parts) were a own projekt by the Luftwaffe. So we have other doors, Schartenplatten and so on. The LVZ was built in from 1938 to 1940
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That's where I have seen this standard before... Thanks Markus. The picture below was made at the LVZ near Dahlem/Schmidtheim. Somewhat smaller, but the same type of hinges I think.
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Thanks Markus for this info. Now we know where they're from! (Not Czech for example )
That looks like a 1.1m door with Mannlöcher?
That looks like a 1.1m door with Mannlöcher?
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Yes it's a 1,10m mit Mannlochklappe. The Luftwaffe version of the 433P01 i guess.
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It´s a Lufwaffen Version of the 15P7, I mean. Because this door is older then the 433P01
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Markus
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I found a pic in my archiv from a LVZ door as entrance door in a heeres-regelbau in the first line of the westwall!
So, i think there were not enought doors during the built of the bunker, so there was used one from the LVZ...
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Markus
So, i think there were not enought doors during the built of the bunker, so there was used one from the LVZ...
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And here some pics from a LVZ-U Bunker which was restored by Peter Waltje from the "Krawa"
Here is it´s internet site.
http://www.krawa.info
Pics from his bunker under
http://www.krawa.info/Ex-Feld/ex-feld.htm
Here are the same doors, which Tonnes views on his pic
Here is it´s internet site.
http://www.krawa.info
Pics from his bunker under
http://www.krawa.info/Ex-Feld/ex-feld.htm
Here are the same doors, which Tonnes views on his pic
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