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RuPo
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Post by RuPo » 07 Feb 2010, 20:26

Please could some one tell me the first letter of the attached file.
Thanks!
g,Ruud
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Post by RuPo » 07 Feb 2010, 20:41

Stupid .. i see it, Holz, one oth the next words. So it must be a Z.
Its a Z.B. stelle.
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Post by Jens Andersen » 07 Feb 2010, 22:17

Hi

I have seen "Z.B." as an abbreviation of "Zielbeobachtung".

However, that is in connection with air observation for the 38 cm battery "Hanstholm II", so I am not sure if it makes any sense here.

Jens

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Post by RuPo » 07 Feb 2010, 22:57

this handles about a 2 cm Flak Batterie.
for sofar i know this should be Zug Befehl Stelle.
i could find back the bunkers for muni and personal, but not for the Z.B. stelle. i think a Zug Bfehl Stelle was not feldmassig.
so ith could be indeed a Beobachtung. porberly this was a feldmassige building.
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Post by Jens Andersen » 08 Feb 2010, 09:26

Hi Ruud

You are right. It seems likely that "ZB" could mean "Zugbefehlsstelle" when it is part of a light Flak position, I just haven't seen that abbreviation for it before.

The strenght of the construction of such a Zugbefehlsstelle would of course depend on the date of construction. In the early years, before the "Atlantic Wall". I think 15 cm of concrete would habe been considered enough. Also, it takes time to construct a Regelbau, so it may also be sufficient for immediate use.

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Jens

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