Ground anchors for heavy guns

[jopaerya]

Hello

Please shoot at the theory's

The 15 cm K. in Mörserlafette and 15 cm S.K.C/28 in Mörserlafette are the same gun ?

According to D 435/1 also rounds of the 15 cm K.18 could be fired from this gun ?

The breech of the 15 cm K/15 cm S.K.C/28 in M.L. is not from a 15 cm S.K.C/28 , so
this would mean that only the barrel was used not the breech ?

The 15 cm K/15 cm S.K.C/28 in M.L. has a barrel lenght of L/55 ?

Regards Jos

[jopaerya]

Same ground anchors with the poles to secure them , picture is from Ebay .

Regards Jos

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

Another image of a ground anchor for the 21cm Mrs 18 howitzer:

Image from historicalmedia website
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[schwarzermai]

The 15 cm K. in Mörserlafette and 15 cm S.K.C/28 in Mörserlafette are the same gun ?

The breech of the 15 cm K/15 cm S.K.C/28 in M.L. is not from a 15 cm S.K.C/28 , so
this would mean that only the barrel was used not the breech ?

Regards Jos

hello Jos

15cm K. in Mörserlafette = 15cm SKC/28 in Mörserlafette - just different designation
the breach was modified for using the Mörserlafette
this gun used Marineammunition (Patronenmunition)
here some pics of s.Art.Abt.(mot.)625 equippted with 15cm K.i.Mrs.Laf - one and only Abteilung with this gun 1940-42
last picture with ground anchors too...
PS: the soldier wrote in his diary "guns from ship Blücher who sinked in norway" - but i think its not correct, isent it?

Uwe

[Sturm78]

Thank you very much for sharing these images, Uwe.

See also http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0&t=157927.


I think it is imposible differenciate between the 17cm K18 gun from the 15cm SK C28 in Mörserlafette.
I do not see any external difference in the barrel

Regards Sturm78

[Manuferey]

Great document uwe, vielen Dank !

The official designation on an official German document:



But on the Kriegsgliederung des Feldheeres of November 1940, it is shortened as SKC 28 :



The 15 cm SKC/28 guns were replaced at one point in 1942 by 3 x 15 cm K 39. I guess the C/28 guns may have been worn out by then.

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

hello Emmanuel

in 1940 the Org.Abt. had to create new tactical signs for the new 15cm K. variants: K39, K18 and 15cm K. i.Mrs.Lafette
so the signs in several times changed in "Kriegsgliederung des Feldheeres" -

in August 1941 s.Art.Abt. (mot.) 625 re-equipted into 15cm K.39 in Pleskau
demand at Aug 20th 1941 - instruction at Aug 25th 1941
new: 9x 15cm K.39 instead of 8x 15cm K. i. Mrs.Lafette
i think one reason was the annormal ammunition (no Heeres ammunition - just Marine) for the guns and problems with supply

Uwe

[Manuferey]

Thanks uwe, so 1941 not 1942 for the K39.

Lack of proper ammunition is indeed is a possibility. But I would have expected the Heer to send the C/28 guns back west and installed them later on the Atlantikwall if they were still usable

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

hello Emmanuel

20.8.1941 - OoB of 16.Armee/I.AK/ArKo 123 shows s.Art.Abt. (mot.) 625 with note "keine Munition"

at Aug'26th 1943 the schwere Batterie (bo.) 513 were re-equipted with 3x 15cm K. i. Mrs.Lafette
(in Sep'1944 re-equipted again into 22cm Mrs. 531 (f) ...)

Uwe

[Manuferey]

Thanks uwe.

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

hello Emmanuel

20.8.1941 - OoB of 16.Armee/I.AK/ArKo 123 shows s.Art.Abt. (mot.) 625 with note "keine Munition"

at Aug'26th 1943 the schwere Batterie (bo.) 513 were re-equipted with 3x 15cm K. i. Mrs.Lafette
(in Sep'1944 re-equipted again into 22cm Mrs. 531 (f) ...)

Uwe

additional:
March 1942 - 3x 15cm K.i.Mrs.Lafette were used for re-equipment 6./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 84
November 1942 - 3x 15cm K.i.Mrs.Lafette were used for re-equipment 2./s.Art.Abt.(mot.) 767
but dont know how long the guns there

Uwe

[Manuferey]

Thanks again, uwe.

Emmanuel

[schwarzermai]

hello, from ebay



uwe

[jopaerya]

from Ebay

[Sturm78]

Hi all,

21cm Mrs 18 being emplaced in Eastern Front:

Image from EBay
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