Hi GrigoriyGrigoriy wrote:Clive,
my thanks for clarifications! So, one mystery less.
And to finish ex-British Beutenumbermysteries (such a english-german word ) — my last question on this theme. This question is: what a gun could be 12,7cm K 381(e) ? It is mentioned here: http://forum.axishistory.com/viewtopic. ... 0#p1280184, nearby 12,7cm K 382(e) which is 60 pdr Mk II. Maybe 381(e) is an elder 60-pounder? Or is it one more intelligence mistake?
I have a lot of similar questions on Beutenumbers for other countries, but it will be another topic.
I have no idea why there is two 60 pdrs listed as the MkII on Mk IV carriage was the only gun in service with the British in 1939. The MkI gun on MkII, MKII* and MkIII carriages had been withdrawn from service.
I notice on the thread you posted a link to there are two 6 inch Howitzers listed, 411(e) and 412(e). There was only ever one 6 inch 26 cwt Howitzer, the MkI on MkI carriage. The older 6 inch 30 cwt was withdrawn after WW1.
In several documents and books the 15.2 cm sFH 410(b) is listed, British 6 inch 26 cwt howitzer sold to Belguim. Also they list 15.2 cm K 410(i), ex Italian, ex Austro-Hungaian 15.2 cm K 15/16.
Another oddity is four Fremdengerat numbers allocated to the British 18 pdr, when there was only 2 marks in service by 1939. One of these was the MkIV on two carriages, carriage MkIV and carriage Mk V. So this could account for three, but what was the fourth?
Many Fremdengerat numbers are well known but there are some that do confuse me. Is it time that we tried to compile a complete list?